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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. It does not matter how marriage may have been traditionally. All that matters is how it operates currently within our laws.
    Tradition in this regard is not a logical argument. It is a fact of life. Society does, in fact, legislate based on tradition. In fact, the supreme court relies heavily on tradition and what has been decided in the past is the de facto standard going forward. For society, this means that the de facto standard of marriage is one man plus one woman.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Well I know same sex couples who want the option to be married, whether it ever happens for them or not. There is no single group where every person in that group wants the exact same things in life. It is called being different.
    I'm certain that there are exceptions to the rule. That's to be expected.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. It does not matter how marriage may have been traditionally. All that matters is how it operates currently within our laws.

    Well I know same sex couples who want the option to be married, whether it ever happens for them or not. There is no single group where every person in that group wants the exact same things in life. It is called being different.
    Biological fact isn't tradition.

    It's biological fact.

    Stating that women binding their feet in China is a good thing, because they always have done so, is an example of fallacy by appeal to tradition.

    This does not involve any sort of appeal to tradition.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. It does not matter how marriage may have been traditionally. All that matters is how it operates currently within our laws.

    Well I know same sex couples who want the option to be married, whether it ever happens for them or not. There is no single group where every person in that group wants the exact same things in life. It is called being different.
    this is another failed argument people always make and it never works, nobody honest buys it, its laughable

    tradition is a fallacy period. what its tradition in my marriage maybe not be in yours and vice versa its complete BS that never works
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Biological fact isn't tradition.

    It's biological fact.

    Stating that women binding their feet in China is a good thing, because they always have done so, is an example of fallacy by appeal to tradition.

    This does not involve any sort of appeal to tradition.
    100% false because your opinion of biology has no barring on marriage
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Tradition in this regard is not a logical argument. It is a fact of life. Society does, in fact, legislate based on tradition. In fact, the supreme court relies heavily on tradition and what has been decided in the past is the de facto standard going forward. For society, this means that the de facto standard of marriage is one man plus one woman.
    No it is not a fact of life. Same sex couples can be and are married. There is no requirement to procreate as a condition of marriage.

    It will only be a matter of time before all states in the US legalize same sex marriage, one way or another. It is going to happen.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Biological fact isn't tradition.

    It's biological fact.

    Stating that women binding their feet in China is a good thing, because they always have done so, is an example of fallacy by appeal to tradition.

    This does not involve any sort of appeal to tradition.
    And since marriage is not about procreation, then that biological fact has no relevance to the issue of marriage.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I'm certain that there are exceptions to the rule. That's to be expected.
    The exceptions are those who never want the option of being able to get married. They exist in the heterosexual community as well.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it is not a fact of life. Same sex couples can be and are married. There is no requirement to procreate as a condition of marriage.

    It will only be a matter of time before all states in the US legalize same sex marriage, one way or another. It is going to happen.
    It's got to be a bitter pill for the haters to swallow, SCOTUS shoots down DOMA and let's stand the ruling declaring Prop 8 unconstitutional.


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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ah yes!

    Nothing like waking up to the disgruntled nonsense of the American extremist far right.

    It's going to be a great morning.

    Freedom and justice has prevailed... On to prop 8!!!!
    You don't consider it extreme to overturn the will of the voters?

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