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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you're a scholar, you know one to link that supports you. And, no, I read the entire thing. It's in keeping with how most read it.
    I can tell you that the original languages did in fact mean homosexuality and condemned them.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I can tell you that the original languages did in fact mean homosexuality and condemned them.
    That just isn't true. I've read far too much. You're blowing smoke.

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That just isn't true. I've read far too much. You're blowing smoke.
    1 Cor 6:9

    The word ἀρσενοκοίτης is found, and is the word for Homosexual in the Greek. It actually has a meaning of defiling one self man with man as if a man with a woman. In other words, sodomy.

    That being said, here is the full text of the verse:

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous [fn] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
    You cannot say the Bible does not condemn homosexuality, it just isn't true.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    1 Cor 6:9

    The word ἀρσενοκοίτης is found, and is the word for Homosexual in the Greek. It actually has a meaning of defiling one self man with man as if a man with a woman. In other words, sodomy.

    That being said, here is the full text of the verse:



    You cannot say the Bible does not condemn homosexuality, it just isn't true.
    There was no word or homosexuality then. You're blowing smoke.

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There was no word or homosexuality then. You're blowing smoke.
    It is a word for homosexuality as it describes homosexual acts. Did you not read my entire post? I'm sorry if you can't handle the truth.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It is a word for homosexuality as it describes homosexual acts. Did you not read my entire post? I'm sorry if you can't handle the truth.
    The word homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written. (New Testament about 2000 years ago, and parts of the Old Testament from 1,400 to 400 BCE.)

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    Most Common Same-sex Confusion in the Bible

    The Bible actually contains no word for homosexuality or homosexual

    Some English – and Spanish, and Chinese, and Russian etc. – translations of the Bible include the word homosexual. That’s incorrect because the word homosexual is nowhere in the original Hebrew or the original Greek.

    The word homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written. (New Testament about 2000 years ago, and parts of the Old Testament from 1,400 to 400 BCE.)
    It wasn’t until 1869 that Dr. Karoly Benkert, a Hungarian physician created the term by combining the homo, the Greek word for same, with the Latin sexual.
    The word homosexual did not come into use in the United States until the 1880’s.
    The concept homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written
    If you see the word homosexual or homosexuality in the Bible, it is because translators chose those words to reflect their own homophobic feelings and ideas.
    Where in the Bible you might find the word homosexual used incorrectly:

    The Hebrew word kedah means temple prostitute and is sometimes inaccurately translated at sodomite or homosexual.
    In 1 Corinthians, sodomite or homosexual are sometimes used, but they are incorrect translations of the Greek malakos which means something closer to effeminate or the Greek practice of pederasty, which is older men having sex with boys and is not consensual gay sex between peers.
    1 Corinthians also refers in Greek to arsenokaitai, which appears nowhere else in the Bible or in Greek writings about homoerotic sexuality, but probably means male prostitute.
    Jude 7 sometimes refers to homosexual flesh that the Sodomites pursued. This is an inaccurate translation of hetera sarx which means, literally, strange flesh to describe the flesh of the angels who were sent by God to evaluate Sodom and Gomorrah.
    In Timothy 1:9-10, translators sometimes use homosexual for the original Greek words, pornoi, arsenokoitai, and andrapodistai, meaning male prostitutes, males who hire male prostitutes or the slave dealers who procure them.
    Including the word homosexual in the Bible is the choice of translators and is not a reflection of the Bible.

    The Bible actually contains no word for homosexuality or homosexual – Our Spirit


    At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible. The Bible says nothing about "homosexuality" as an innate dimension of personality. Sexual orientation was not understood in biblical times. There are references in the Bible to same-gender sexual behavior, and all of them are undeniably negative. But what is condemned in these passages is the violence, idolatry and exploitation related to the behavior, not the same-gender nature of the behavior. There are references in the Bible to different-gender sexual behavior that are just as condemning for the same reasons. But no one claims that the condemnation is because the behavior was between a man and a woman.

    What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? | Resources | Human Rights Campaign


    "Saying that the last recorded acts of the Sodomites -- the demands for same-gender sex -- are proof that they were destroyed for homosexuality is like saying that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards. Sodom was judged worthy of destruction before the incident with Lot and the angels." Inge Anderson 1

    (Snip)


    "The activities in Sodom were to homosexuality what rape is to heterosexuality." Anon

    Homosexuality in the biblical book of Genesis: Sodom and Gomorrah

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The word homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written. (New Testament about 2000 years ago, and parts of the Old Testament from 1,400 to 400 BCE.)

    (Snip)

    Most Common Same-sex Confusion in the Bible

    The Bible actually contains no word for homosexuality or homosexual

    Some English – and Spanish, and Chinese, and Russian etc. – translations of the Bible include the word homosexual. That’s incorrect because the word homosexual is nowhere in the original Hebrew or the original Greek.

    The word homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written. (New Testament about 2000 years ago, and parts of the Old Testament from 1,400 to 400 BCE.)
    It wasn’t until 1869 that Dr. Karoly Benkert, a Hungarian physician created the term by combining the homo, the Greek word for same, with the Latin sexual.
    The word homosexual did not come into use in the United States until the 1880’s.
    The concept homosexual didn’t exist when the Bible was written
    If you see the word homosexual or homosexuality in the Bible, it is because translators chose those words to reflect their own homophobic feelings and ideas.
    Where in the Bible you might find the word homosexual used incorrectly:

    The Hebrew word kedah means temple prostitute and is sometimes inaccurately translated at sodomite or homosexual.
    In 1 Corinthians, sodomite or homosexual are sometimes used, but they are incorrect translations of the Greek malakos which means something closer to effeminate or the Greek practice of pederasty, which is older men having sex with boys and is not consensual gay sex between peers.
    1 Corinthians also refers in Greek to arsenokaitai, which appears nowhere else in the Bible or in Greek writings about homoerotic sexuality, but probably means male prostitute.
    Jude 7 sometimes refers to homosexual flesh that the Sodomites pursued. This is an inaccurate translation of hetera sarx which means, literally, strange flesh to describe the flesh of the angels who were sent by God to evaluate Sodom and Gomorrah.
    In Timothy 1:9-10, translators sometimes use homosexual for the original Greek words, pornoi, arsenokoitai, and andrapodistai, meaning male prostitutes, males who hire male prostitutes or the slave dealers who procure them.
    Including the word homosexual in the Bible is the choice of translators and is not a reflection of the Bible.

    The Bible actually contains no word for homosexuality or homosexual – Our Spirit


    At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible. The Bible says nothing about "homosexuality" as an innate dimension of personality. Sexual orientation was not understood in biblical times. There are references in the Bible to same-gender sexual behavior, and all of them are undeniably negative. But what is condemned in these passages is the violence, idolatry and exploitation related to the behavior, not the same-gender nature of the behavior. There are references in the Bible to different-gender sexual behavior that are just as condemning for the same reasons. But no one claims that the condemnation is because the behavior was between a man and a woman.

    What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? | Resources | Human Rights Campaign


    "Saying that the last recorded acts of the Sodomites -- the demands for same-gender sex -- are proof that they were destroyed for homosexuality is like saying that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards. Sodom was judged worthy of destruction before the incident with Lot and the angels." Inge Anderson 1

    (Snip)


    "The activities in Sodom were to homosexuality what rape is to heterosexuality." Anon

    Homosexuality in the biblical book of Genesis: Sodom and Gomorrah
    I'm sorry, but that is people who are twisting the original languages to fit the homosexual agenda.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I'm sorry, but that is people who are twisting the original languages to fit the homosexual agenda.
    You don't know any gay people, do you? Getting a group of gays to agree on anything is just about impossible, but somehow they have this scarey agenda...
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You don't know any gay people, do you? Getting a group of gays to agree on anything is just about impossible, but somehow they have this scarey agenda...
    Oh I know a lot of them actually.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I'm sorry, but that is people who are twisting the original languages to fit the homosexual agenda.
    AND YOUR NOT TWISTING towards your agenda?

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