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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No I don't. There are all kinds of restrictions I'm under. I cannot marry just whomever I love. If I fall in love with someone who's married, for example, I'm sol.
    I have to agree with what I quoted you saying here.

    One does not have the right to marry whoever they are in love with. The constitution does not protect the citizens from their state and federal government from that. Sick but if one is in love with a child, they do not have the right to marry that child.

    That said it was brought up before, but the EPC of the 14th amendment does protect the citizens of US from their state from gender discrimination. Simple argument but Alice can marry Charles because she is a woman but Bob can't marry Charles because he is a man. That is treating Bob and Alice (and Charles) differently strictly on the basis of their sex/gender.

    "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"

    Notice it even says privileges not rights (so even if you could argue marriage is not a right, it's irrelevant it is certainly a privilege granted by their state).

    And Alice, Bob, and Charles have certainly all had their privileges abridged by not allowing them to marry someone solely because of their relative sexes.

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I actualy know a few hetero guys who probably would. They grew up best friends and are like brothers. They do everything together.
    So what if they want to make their bromance so strong they get federal and state benefits from it. Marriages of convenience happen all the time. A lot of 30 year olds (both male and female) marry rich 75 year olds, but very few 30 year olds marry poor 75 year olds

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    there has always been a single definition of marriage which applied to everybody.
    always?
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    There has always been a single definition of marriage which applied to everybody.
    Is it really that big a deal if we let gays marry?

    Really? Don't we have bigger things to worry about, like hunger, homelessness, education, healthcare, Iran, immigration, obesity, pollution?

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    always?
    It's not even true today in the United States. Even side stepping same sex marriage:

    Oregon has one definition:

    Orgeon

    If you aren't 17 years of age, you can't get married in Oregon. Those 17 years of age will need parental consent.

    Pennsylvania has another:

    If either of you are under 18 years of age, you must pay an additional $5.00, show your Birth Certificate, and have the written consent of a parent or guardian. Anyone under 16 years of age needs parental consent and the approval of a Judge of the Orphans Court.

    And Rhode Island has another:

    Rhode Island

    If the bride is either 16 or 17 years of age, she will need to have a Minor's Permit to Marry Form (VS 10) signed and notarized by her parent or guardian at the City Clerk's office. Females under the age of 16, and males under the age of 18 cannot get married without prior approval from the Family Court.

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by PotusHillary View Post
    So what if they want to make their bromance so strong they get federal and state benefits from it. Marriages of convenience happen all the time. A lot of 30 year olds (both male and female) marry rich 75 year olds, but very few 30 year olds marry poor 75 year olds
    I suspect those benefits are why there's so much money available to fight gay marriage.

    Gays were "free" for businesses before.

    Money got increases in property values without having to pay marriage benefits to the couples making the improvements.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Do men have a constitutional right to marry their daughters? Assuming, of course, that everyone is above age of consent.
    The state can present a legitimate case that it has a rational reason to deny the right to marry in that case. It cannot do so with SSM.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    There has always been a single definition of marriage which applied to everybody.
    Absolutely false. The definition of marriage varies by state now, and has varied over time just in the history of this country.
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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, you aren't. she can get a divorce and then marry you. happens every single day. your example isn't analogous.
    So you agree that she can't be married, that noone can become a 3rd or 4th. Thank you for proving my point.

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    re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So you agree that she can't be married, that noone can become a 3rd or 4th. Thank you for proving my point.
    this isn't a discussion about polygamy. if you want my opinion on that one, i honestly don't care one way or the other about it.

    the point is that heterosexuals are permitted to have a legally recognized marriage in all fifty states, and homosexuals are not. it's up to the SCOTUS to correct this, and hopefully it will do so.

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