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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    They weren't called "defense of marriage" laws for nothing. They weren't put in place to discriminate, but to prevent the institution from being deconstructed and redefined. It might be a fine-line difference but fine-line differences can result in legal precedence being made. There's nothing else in our society that is as great a shake-up to established social structure as this. There isn't even anything that parallels it that we can use as a good analogy for legal purposes and it will be very interesting to see how it all ends up and how it gets there.
    They were still put in place to specifically deny marriage to couples they felt were wrong to include. By the time most of those laws got put in place, the law already technically recognized legal same sex marriages of some kinds, and still do in fact. Because by the time of most of those laws, people could legally change their sex/gender in most states.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They were still put in place to specifically deny marriage to couples they felt were wrong to include. By the time most of those laws got put in place, the law already technically recognized legal same sex marriages of some kinds, and still do in fact. Because by the time of most of those laws, people could legally change their sex/gender in most states.
    So, do ya think the marriage will last after the sex change?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Don'cha know the divorce lawyers are champing at the bit for this to get through? Their case loads will double, although their drama will quadriple.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    There's a new suit in Pennsylvania that includes challenging the state not recognizing out of state marriages. This one, if it goes through the same contention as Prop 8, could end up requiring examination of the remaining part of DOMA, and striking down the refusal by a state to honor those marriages. That, more than anything else, would make SSM the law of the land.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    So, do ya think the marriage will last after the sex change?
    In many cases, those marriages have already lasted. It has happened more often than people want to believe.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    There's a new suit in Pennsylvania that includes challenging the state not recognizing out of state marriages. This one, if it goes through the same contention as Prop 8, could end up requiring examination of the remaining part of DOMA, and striking down the refusal by a state to honor those marriages. That, more than anything else, would make SSM the law of the land.

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    I'm signing up to be Rick Santorum's divorce lawyer. You know, since gay marriage is such a big threat to his marriage.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I'm signing up to be Rick Santorum's divorce lawyer. You know, since gay marriage is such a big threat to his marriage.
    For the life of me, I cannot fathom how sexual orientation is a value. I would think that kind-heartedness is. Liberty is. Equality, justice, and fairness. But sexual orientation? One of these things is not like the others.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    For the life of me, I cannot fathom how sexual orientation is a value. I would think that kind-heartedness is. Liberty is. Equality, justice, and fairness. But sexual orientation? One of these things is not like the others.
    Liberty is the important word.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Liberty is the important word.
    So, how does valuing liberty require a narrower view of sexuality and marriage? I would think that the opposite is true.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So, how does valuing liberty require a narrower view of sexuality and marriage? I would think that the opposite is true.
    Cause you can live by what they consider "liberty."
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