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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

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    Heterosexuality is, basically, just about having children. Hence the reason so many homosexuals refer to heterosexuals in the pejorative as "breeders". It's certainly not a "way of life". When I'm asked what I am, my sexual orientation never comes to mind as my defining characteristic. For gay people it does. And that's queer (no pun intended).
    No heterosexuality is not "just about having children". If I couldn't have had children, I would still be heterosexual. I would still be an important person in society. The same goes for all people.

    I have never talked to a gay person and had them tell me they were gay upon our first meeting. Most only reveal this because it is relevant to the conversation or someone else revealed it about them or it is revealed by who they are dating or mention they find attractive. Just like heterosexuals. I thought my roommate was asexual for quite some time until he finally got a girlfriend while we were sharing our third apartment. I found out it was just that he was attracted to really big women. He had no interest in women less than 200 pounds. So he appeared to not have any sexual interest because he wouldn't be attracted to the vast majority of the girls in the Navy (given that we have to maintain a weight way below that, no matter the height) and most of the other guys would point out women who were smaller, who simply didn't turn his head.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Different day, same old ODD/BPD postings from CC.

    If you'll read back to the beginning of your rants, you'll see that I never said you said it was anything other than a states' rights decision.

    In fact, it may be one of the few things we actually agree on in the matter.

    I merely emphasized that point .. and you apparently mistook it to mean you had said otherwise .. in typical oppostional defiant ideologue misconstruence.



    Again, giving it a rest may be your best move right now.
    You posted the comment TOWARDS me. Perhaps you might want to learn how to comment in a more appropriate and accurate fashion.

    And yet you STILL haven't addressed the other point. Please post where I said or implied "redefine", as you claimed I did:

    Now you try to deny that you previously clearly stated that the word "marriage" was redefined some time ago and that today's SCOTUS rulings substantiated those redefinitions.
    You really should not keep ignoring these confrontations. Makes you look bad.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Rather than knee-jerking your oppositional defiance, you would have done well to read the poll reference I presented that validates the obvious reality I presented.
    Handled and completely refuted... with your own link.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    You could argue that homosexuality is a buffer against overpopulation but it's not a compelling argument. I doubt you would try to make that a legal argument because it would probably weaken your other arguments a lot more than it would strengthen them.
    Those children that are already there would exist without them. They are adding to the existing population becoming actual productive members of society while not actually adding to that population. And they are families whether they have children of their own, adopt children, or are childless.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You posted the comment TOWARDS me. Perhaps you might want to learn how to comment in a more appropriate and accurate fashion. And yet you STILL haven't addressed the other point. Please post where I said or implied "redefine", as you claimed I did: You really should not keep ignoring these confrontations. Makes you look bad.
    Meaningless, as always.

    You erred in your victim mentality thinking.

    That makes you look bad, not me.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Handled and completely refuted... with your own link.
    False, as always.

    Your continued obsession with me and attempting to discredit my true statements does continue to make you appear .. obsessed.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post


    Typical of SS oxymoronic ideologues -- someone tries to help them create a win-win in a losing situation, and rather than admit to their own faults of stealing something that doesn't belong to them, they simply whine against the people trying to help them.

    That's called hypocrisy, CT.

    Reality remains that, as the polls show, polls answered mostly be those aligning with the liberal faction, only 37% support SS "marriage", meaning that 63% oppose it .. but if you change the wording to "homarriage" or the relevant like, support jumps to 70%!

    You are perhaps forgetting that in CA's Prop 8, though the state itself is run by liberals, Prop 8 passed! And why? Because the Black community, normally that sides with liberals on most all of the other issues, was hugely in favor of Prop 8!

    You would do well, if state recognition success is your goal, to consider a more reasonable approach.

    But if the logically accurate and relevant term "homarriage" isn't to your liking, please tell me what term in place of "marriage" would be acceptable to you for SS CUDPs (Civil Union Domestic Partnership).
    Figures. Even when you are told it is offensive you continue to use it. Just another bigot pretending to be moderate. I dare you to put that term up to a vote on this forum. If you are really so concerned with a compromise you will abandon that term if a majority finds it offensive. But I think you really just want to belittle gays and their relationships so I know you will not do it.

    I would not care what people would call it as long as it was the same for everyone. As long as the government is involved it should be no different.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    As we all know, most people when contacted by pollsters say "no thanks", and on this subject, liberals jump at the chance, so all of these polls are naturally skewed in favor of the oxymoronic SS marriage .. thus, from a nationwide perspective, you have to reduce the SS "marriage" support by about 15-20 or so in the percentage number to approximate the nation as a whole .. I mean you do if actual reality is important to you.
    Look at you. You posted stats... claimed they proved your position, and when your entire post was destroyed, NOW you try and distance yourself from what you had previously claimed to be accurate. I KNEW you'd run, distort, and post dishonestly. It's what you do. Face it. You self-pwned and did so BADLY. Everyone saw it. It was pretty funny.

    In this case, when asked about "gay marriage" most centrists and conservatives are either unreachable or decline to state, and these are people who would be opposed to "marriage" but in support of "homarriage", especially the centrists, the great majority of Americans.
    Pathetic and dishonest excuses... but I'll play. What I placed in bold... prove it with links.

    Nevertheless, none of the poll questions validated your point, as they would have to be phrased "if given a choice between only SS "marriage" and CUDPs for SS couples called something other than "marriage", what would you prefer".
    The poll question validated my point because of the choices the respondents were given. You didn't know how to read statistics and completely destroyed your position because of this.

    The answer to that question would validate my point that the great majority would answer "other than the word "marriage"".
    Prove it. Post links to substantiate.

    Reality reamains, as you so at-length diverted in our oppositional defiant rant, is that for SS activists to get across-the-nation state recognition for SS couples, their best chance is the "homarriage" route, obviously.

    When you factor in the non-response-to-poll people, that becomes even more obvious.
    This is hilarious. You post a poll that you claim supports your position, THEN when it's pointed out that, because you didn't understand how to read statistics, you self-pwned and proved your position wrong, you make up stuff to distance yourself. Just shows how dishonest you post.

    But let's try this. You made MORE assertions. Prove them. Here they are:

    when asked about "gay marriage" most centrists and conservatives are either unreachable or decline to state
    "if given a choice between only SS "marriage" and CUDPs for SS couples called something other than "marriage", what would you prefer".

    The answer to that question would validate my point that the great majority would answer "other than the word "marriage"".
    These are your assertions. Prove them with links to data.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Don't argue with me about it. Argue with Darwin.
    Darwin would never have written anything this simplistic about sexual selection. So I'm arguing with you.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Typical of SS oxymoronic ideologues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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