Page 115 of 159 FirstFirst ... 1565105113114115116117125 ... LastLast
Results 1,141 to 1,150 of 1585

Thread: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

  1. #1141
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think you'd be very hard pressed to argue that the gaggle of giggles that is the gay community, defined entirely by it's behavior "contributes meaningfully to society" as a group. As individuals they may "contribute to society" just as a child molestor might be a scientist working on a cure for cancer when he's not molesting children. But as a group, there is no significant contribution unless you place a lot more value on the "societal contribution" of interior design or drag queen revues than I do.
    I understand that your argument is limited by your own self admitted ignorance of the contributions to society by homosexuals as a group as is your ignoring that they are discriminated against as a group....while you continue to equate them with child molesters. You continue to play 3 card monte with a scientist who is at one point a cancer researcher and the next a molester. Again, you continue to play this game of trying to confuse the group and individual. I know what sets and subsets are, I know that the subset does not define the set. Why you believe that you can confuse me on this aspect is funny, but not unexpected.

    Your argument rests on ignorance, but I knew that from the beginning.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  2. #1142
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I meant rhetorically, but I suspect you know that already.
    If someone can choose to have sex with someone they are not attracted to, how can you say they have no control over their attractions?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  3. #1143
    Sage
    roguenuke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Last Seen
    05-17-17 @ 05:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,935

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Do I need to provide you links that say "homosexuality is a behavior"? Probably not. We can find links to say anything we want, and it's superfluous since it's obvious that homosexuality is a behavior. Lusting is a behavior. If you lust after or engage in sex with someone of the same sex, you are a homosexual. It's defined by behavior and you can shout "bull****" from dusk till dawn and it won't change that.
    Homosexuality is not behavior. Homosexuality is an attraction, just like heterosexuality. What is a behavior is choosing to act on that attraction, no matter a person's sexuality.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

  4. #1144
    Sage
    roguenuke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Last Seen
    05-17-17 @ 05:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,935

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If someone can choose to have sex with someone they are not attracted to, how can you say they have no control over their attractions?
    You just said it. They aren't attracted to the person. It does not require attraction to have sex. It does not require attraction to be in a relationship.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

  5. #1145
    Guru
    Aderleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    04-08-16 @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    4,294

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Do I need to provide you links that say "homosexuality is a behavior"? Probably not. We can find links to say anything we want, and it's superfluous since it's obvious that homosexuality is a behavior. Lusting is a behavior. If you lust after or engage in sex with someone of the same sex, you are a homosexual. It's defined by behavior and you can shout "bull****" from dusk till dawn and it won't change that.
    If the part in bold is true, does that mean that heterosexuality is also a behavior and not a state of being? If lust is just a behavior, does that mean you can decide to become attracted to men? I mean you, specifically. Have you ever attempted to do so? If not, on what are you basing this contention?

    I'm sure you can provide all sorts of links to the internet backwater from which you apparently get information. I provided you with two dictionary definitions, and the opinions of medical professionals. Desire is not a behavior, it's a feeling. Both science and the English language are on my side here. Also logic, but I'm sure you're not interested in letting such concerns interfere with your bigotry. Carry on.

  6. #1146
    Sage
    Papa bull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Midwest
    Last Seen
    06-25-15 @ 01:35 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    6,927

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I understand that your argument is limited by your own self admitted ignorance of the contributions to society by homosexuals as a group as is your ignoring that they are discriminated against as a group....while you continue to equate them with child molesters. You continue to play 3 card monte with a scientist who is at one point a cancer researcher and the next a molester. Again, you continue to play this game of trying to confuse the group and individual. I know what sets and subsets are, I know that the subset does not define the set. Why you believe that you can confuse me on this aspect is funny, but not unexpected.

    Your argument rests on ignorance, but I knew that from the beginning.
    And you are trying to play the same self-stroking narcissistic game I've heard so many other homosexuals try to run down about their "group's" contributions to history as though there was some sort of wonderful thing about the "gay culture" that made people contribute special things to the sciences and arts and business than plain ol' heterosexuals would have or could have done. Go ahead and make the case that the "gay culture" has contributed significantly to society in any way other than as individuals utterly independent of their sexual activity.... just like any other nondescript group of people that is only defined by specific sexual behavior.
    Last edited by Papa bull; 06-27-13 at 05:55 PM.

  7. #1147
    Guru
    Aderleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    04-08-16 @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    4,294

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If someone can choose to have sex with someone they are not attracted to, how can you say they have no control over their attractions?
    You just answered your own question. If they're still not attracted to the person they've chosen to have sex with, then they haven't chosen their attraction at all, simply acted in opposition to it.

  8. #1148
    Heavy Hitter


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    @
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    63,511

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If someone can choose to have sex with someone they are not attracted to, how can you say they have no control over their attractions?
    It doesn't necessarily require attraction to have sex..."any port in a storm" and all that.

  9. #1149
    Sage
    Papa bull's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Midwest
    Last Seen
    06-25-15 @ 01:35 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    6,927

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    If the part in bold is true, does that mean that heterosexuality is also a behavior and not a state of being?
    Yes. Unlike homosexuals, we don't define our very existence and being by our sexual preference. We don't state heterosexual pride parades to draw attention to the wonderfulness that is us. We don't walk around with gay pride shirts on. We don't feel the need to make sure every person we run into knows we go for the opposite sex whether they like it or not.

    To heterosexuals, it's not a "state of being". We just engage the opposite sex and that's that. Homosexuals lust after people of the same sex. Heterosexuals don't. The difference is behavior.

  10. #1150
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    And you are trying to play the same self-stroking narcissistic game I've seen heard so many other homosexuals try to run down about their "group's" contributions to history as though there was some sort of wonderful thing about the "gay culture" that made people contribute special things to the sciences and arts and business than plain ol' heterosexuals would have or could have done. Go ahead and make the case that the "gay culture" has contributed significantly to society in any way other than as individuals utterly independent of their sexual activity.... just like any other nondescript group of people that is only defined by specific sexual behavior.
    I don't have to show they are "wonderful", all I have to show is that they DO contribute meaningfully to society....but wait....you just did that......and you also gave examples of how YOU stereotype them, how YOU subject them to discriminatory actions......YOU have made my case entirely in showing that they are a class subject to discrimination who contributes meaningfully to society.

    You made my case, thank YOU!
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •