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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Thank you for making my point, we have rights that are not limited to "immutable characteristics". To argue that sexual orientation might not be an immutable characteristic and therefore no protections of rights can be associated with it, is false.
    To argue that it must, though, is also false.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Tell you what, why don't you change your sexual orientation. Go ahead. I'll wait.
    When I said choice, I mean my choice, not yours. You can stick anything you want in your mouth and I won't wait because I don't want to know. It's your chocie. It's your business and if you keep it your business we're all happy for that.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    When I said choice, I mean my choice, not yours. You can stick anything you want in your mouth and I won't wait because I don't want to know. It's your chocie. It's your business and if you keep it your business we're all happy for that.
    Are you admitting that you can't change your sexual orientation?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    To argue that it must, though, is also false.
    That's the problem. That it MIGHT be an immutable characteristic isn't a powerful argument even though it seems to be the central thrust of gay propaganda.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Are you admitting that you can't change your sexual orientation?
    Have you considered getting some help with your reading comprehension?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Have you considered getting some help with your reading comprehension?
    Nope. I've got that covered. I'll ask again: can you change your sexual orientation?

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Take it up with the Supreme Court. If you want to argue that homosexuality equates to religion, go for it.
    Straw, that is not my argument beyond the fact that we have rights for other than IC's.

    If you want to argue that homosexuality must be a suspect class since religion doesn't possess "immutable characteristics" in your opinion, you go for it.
    Straw again, neither is an IC but both ARE suspect classes since both are groups that are subject to discrimination. That was determined long ago.


    Good luck with that. Homosexuality is defined by behavior and there is no suspect class that is determined to be so based entirely on their behavior. But what the heck.... you give it your best shot. Maybe you can pave the way for child molesters, rapists or robbers to become suspect classes since they are also defined by their behavior.
    Yes, that is what I am doing, arguing for "child molesters, rapists or robbers" to be considered a suspect class.

    FFS, look at what your argument has been reduced to, your "immutable characteristic" is a shambles and your defense is to create multiple straw men.

    Sad.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That's the problem. That it MIGHT be an immutable characteristic isn't a powerful argument even though it seems to be the central thrust of gay propaganda.
    Right. Agreed.
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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Nope. I've got that covered. I'll ask again: can you change your sexual orientation?
    Maybe his parent's had him reprogrammed.

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    Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    To argue that it must, though, is also false.
    What? Followers of religious beliefs are a suspect class. This "it must" is not "false".
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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