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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I do think Iraq war was part of the War on Terror,
    Then objective hasn't been achieved yet since terrorists still exist, and are now prevalent in Iraq thanks to the invasion.

    and I don't think Bush took advantage of us.
    I don't think Bush necessarily did. But I think there are those in the administration who willingly misled since they were already pushing for this war before 9/11.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Its constitutional,
    As a strict interpreter of the Constitution, I view every war and conflict we have been in since 1945 as unconstitutional as there was no congressional vote declaring war.



    I don't agree with the entire scope of military involvement in the world, but Islamic fundamentalism is a clear threat,
    It has become a threat because of the States continuous meddling in ME affairs. Doing more of the same isn't going to make them go away.

    and it makes more sense to kill them before they kill us. Killing enemies does not reduce my liberty, thus its consistent with libertarianism.
    For each one killed many more pop up. To play this game of 'whack-a-mole' requires endless war. Any libertarian knows that war is the health of the state and perpetual war inevitable destroys freedoms at home more than any terrorist could.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    As a strict interpreter of the Constitution, I view every war and conflict we have been in since 1945 as unconstitutional as there was no congressional vote declaring war.





    It has become a threat because of the States continuous meddling in ME affairs. Doing more of the same isn't going to make them go away.



    For each one killed many more pop up. To play this game of 'whack-a-mole' requires endless war. Any libertarian knows that war is the health of the state and perpetual war inevitable destroys freedoms at home more than any terrorist could.
    Islamic fundamentalists were killing people long before the US was around. We're just their latest excuse. For the rest, agree to disagree. The Iraq debate is a dead horse.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Some member claimed Al N is 6%. I don't remember who, pretty much a random person, but it's good enough to counter total idiocy.

    You got a number?
    That was probably me. The war chart at the right is where I got the stats from, I did the math myself. It was actually more like 5.6% when only counting al-Nusra.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    The leader of the Hezbollah has stated they will stay and fight the Syrian government until it's over. What he did not say is when this fiasco is over in 20 years they will take the arms provided by America and return to their homeland and use the weapons against Israel.
    Actually, Hezbollah's been fighting alongside Assad pretty much this whole time.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    We don't do whats feasible. We decide what needs to be done, and do it the best way we can. Again, what I said was it would be IDEAL if our allies who we have fought and died for would 100% back us up when we asked them to, but they are not as loyal as we are. The same goes for Syria, which is a threat to the US and the world. The Russians and Chinese want to play games instead dealing with a problem.
    Syria is not a threat to the USA or the World. The USA is the threat. The spinmiesters are working overtime in your cerebellum and are doing your thinking for you.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Syria is not a threat to the USA or the World. The USA is the threat. The spinmiesters are working overtime in your cerebellum and are doing your thinking for you.
    Rhetoric.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Islamic fundamentalists were killing people long before the US was around.
    All terrorism, whether Islamic fundamentalist or other, have similar origins: State oppression over certain groups. Until this is addressed and resolved we cannot ever hope to truly 'win' the War on Terror.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    All terrorism, whether Islamic fundamentalist or other, have similar origins: State oppression over certain groups. Until this is addressed and resolved we cannot ever hope to truly 'win' the War on Terror.
    Islamic fundementalism is them wanting to oppress others.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    All terrorism, whether Islamic fundamentalist or other, have similar origins: State oppression over certain groups. Until this is addressed and resolved we cannot ever hope to truly 'win' the War on Terror.

    This is far to broad a statement. The TYPE of "oppression" really needs to be considered before you address the state responsibility. In the case of Radical Islam the state "oppression" can come in the form of a moderate state refusing to enforce Islam as the state religion. How would you address this?

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