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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes, really.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then you admit you were wrong in your assessment of the nation's objective in iraq
    it was not simply to overthrow saddam's regime
    it was nation building
    love it when a member's posts refute his own earlier arguments
    No, the objective was to remove Saddams regime. We did that.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Any loss America suffers is going to be a political loss. Americans defeat themselves at home first.

    The lesson should be that you go in and destroy the government, just as was done in Afghanistan and Iraq, and not waste any time about it. When you stay around too long, anything over over three months perhaps, many Americans will mobilize and eventually turn on each other. That's why I don't see the point in Syria, apart from not knowing who the bad guys really are.

    History doesn't stop so it is not yet known what the outcomes will be in either Iraq or Afghanistan. But we should have learned that you move in quickly, remove the dictators in place, move out, and repeat until they learn to get along with their neighbors and respect the freedoms of the individual. Otherwise it just becomes a Whac-a-mole policy, which is what we have now.
    I agree in part, though its debatable whether we have a responsibility to help a nation recover that we caused instability in.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, the objective was to remove Saddams regime. We did that.
    then i ask you again, if that was the objective, why did our troops remain in that theatre so long after that objective was accomplished?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I agree in part, though its debatable whether we have a responsibility to help a nation recover that we caused instability in.
    It should be a given that the 'instability' was there before any action was taken. Both the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were given fair warning about what would happen should they not relinquish power, and each made the incorrect decision. The error, in both cases, was trying to create western type democracies from religiously oppressed peoples and always with more ambitious religious despots ready to take their place, keeping in mind that power in these places offers a lifestyle greater than anything we can imagine here.

    This should be the attitude.

    A story for which Charles James Napier is often noted involved Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of Sati by British authorities. This was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. As first recounted by his brother William, he replied:

    "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
    That put a stop to that custom, and the west should act in the same manner. No more hanging Gays from lamp posts, stoning women to death, honor killings, not allowing children to attend schools, etc. But too many are excusing this behavior under the guise of 'multiculturalism'. It is inhuman and cowardly response that will eventually bite us in the ass.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then i ask you again, if that was the objective, why did our troops remain in that theatre so long after that objective was accomplished?
    To prevent having to go back again later.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    To prevent having to go back again later.
    and i thought they hanged saddam
    didn't realize he was still around to prompt a return
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Back to the point, Syrias civil war is not our problem unless it puts WMDs in the hands of AQ. Syria sponsoring terrorism has always been a problem though. Since our military is so great, we shouldn't have to supply arms to rebels. Kill Assad, destory the military, capture the WMDs, go home.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Again, the question I was asked was if we won the war in Iraq. Since the was was to defeat Sadaams army, the answer is YES.
    I thought the neocons said Iraq is a part of the War on Terror? If that is the case then it is hardly "won."
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Back to the point, Syrias civil war is not our problem unless it puts WMDs in the hands of AQ. Syria sponsoring terrorism has always been a problem though. Since our military is so great, we shouldn't have to supply arms to rebels. Kill Assad, destory the military, capture the WMDs, go home.
    I love how people are always so willing to put other people's lives on the line.
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