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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    U.S. to increase military support to Syria rebels | Reuters

    Just announced. The US has confirmed it has undeniable proof that Assad in fact used chemical weapons against his own people and, as a result, the US will begin supplying lethal military aid to the rebels for the first time since the war began 2 years ago.

    About damn time.
    Every time we do this it always backfires...

    One of the few ideas both sides can agree on over there is the fact they both hate the US and western culture in general.

    Nothing good can or will come of this.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    had that been the actual goal we would have left the theatre in a matter of days, NOT years
    The units that accomplished it did. We then took on a seperate goal of occupation, which also suceeded. We did not withdrawl under political pressure. We stayed until the country had an elected govt, and was stable. Then the Iraqi govt took over security. No, its not a perfect win. Neither was Germany where we still have troops.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I agree. But why hang around for another several years after the win? What was that all about?
    I dont want to argue the Iraq war. I was only explaing how we didnt lose the war. Afghanistan is still in progress. So, the only loss the US has ever had is Vietnam, which again, was a political loss, not a military one. Solletica started this by saying "And the worst defense is a bad offense, the latter in which the US military has plenty of experience." There is simply no evidence that the US military has plenty of experience at bad offense. In fact its damn near undefeated.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    $$$ for the cause (cronies that profit). Nation building is the expensive (but profitable?) part. When the most powerful military on the planet cannot advance beyond a stalemate against an enemy with no air force, no navy and a rag tag (at best) army then you know we have a bad (or non-existant) battle plan. For each $200 enemy sniper or IED attack we respond with $1,000,000 (or so) in "defense" spending including bribing the locals to help us.
    But we're still here, while they keep moving back. They are losing their state sponsors, hundreds of thousands are dead, their leaders are dead. Our culture moves forward, while theres continues to ruin their reputation. The fact that they can hold on so long and prick us once in a while is the only pro in their column.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    But we're still here, while they keep moving back. They are losing their state sponsors, hundreds of thousands are dead, their leaders are dead. Our culture moves forward, while theres continues to ruin their reputation. The fact that they can hold on so long and prick us once in a while is the only pro in their column.
    While enemy casualties (including civilians) in Afghanistan naturally exceed our own (including allied troops) they are far under 100,000 for the duration of the Afghanistan "war" - cite a source for your "hundreds of thousands" of deaths.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That's how you use up armaments, vehicles, planes, beaucoup fuel, bullets, bombs, rockets, food, commissaries, tents, tires, dollars, etc. It's called feeding the Corporate Military/Industrial complex. Just keep watching Syria to see the game. We need a "Don't Feed The Corporate Military/Industrial Complex" program recognition software from NSA to eliminate this distortion. Oh well, most people don't believe it and are gonna have to smack their very own lying friggin' eyes, eh?

    I left the "obvious" out of this post and then realized it may not be "obvious" to readers who had not been in the military. When inventory "armaments, vehicles, planes, beaucoup fuel, bullets, bombs, rockets, food, commissaries, tents, tires, etc.," are used up by the military, replacements are ordered, generating continuing profits from the armaments manufacturers. This is demand in a supply/demand scenario. That is why wars are such popular and successful business ventures. That is why the $700 billion Military Offense budget exists. It's just good business. I don't think any company makes more money than those supplying fuel because everything runs on fuel. Ergo, Energy Corporations are the first cheerleaders for war. Who'd a thunk it, eh?

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    While enemy casualties (including civilians) in Afghanistan naturally exceed our own (including allied troops) they are far under 100,000 for the duration of the Afghanistan "war" - cite a source for your "hundreds of thousands" of deaths.
    I was referring to the war on terror. I have no source, its a guess. Call it tens of thousands if you like. If youre measuring by body count, the US is WAY ahead.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I was referring to the war on terror. I have no source, its a guess. Call it tens of thousands if you like. If youre measuring by body count, the US is WAY ahead.
    Perhaps, yet expending the lives of 4,000+ to avenge the lives of 3,000 9/11 victims is still a bad deal. Peharps one should look closely at the vast difference in monetary expediture, taking into account TSA (and its associated travel delays), paying an average of $1.7 million to each 9/11 victim's family, adding homeland security as well as the military direct (and indirect) costs to zap a few "terrorists" before they can do bad things over here. One must remember that 9/11 was caused by allowing 4-5 morons "armed" with boxcutters to drive commercial aircraft into buildings and that a "training camp" (or two) in Afghanistan was hardly crucial for carrying that out.

    These Jihad morons have not been destroyed or even seriously reduced by our venturing into their prime recruiting grounds, in fact, the opposite is likely true - the "invasion" of their homelands by "infidels" actually aids in their recruiting efforts. Better to zap the Jihad "leaders" using intel, special ops and drones than to attempt to play nation builder in their chosen "safe zones" overseas.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Don't worry guys, I'm sure giving weapons to these terrorists freedom fighters will work out better than the last twenty times we tried exactly this sort of thing.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps, yet expending the lives of 4,000+ to avenge the lives of 3,000 9/11 victims is still a bad deal. Peharps one should look closely at the vast difference in monetary expediture, taking into account TSA (and its associated travel delays), paying an average of $1.7 million to each 9/11 victim's family, adding homeland security as well as the military direct (and indirect) costs to zap a few "terrorists" before they can do bad things over here. One must remember that 9/11 was caused by allowing 4-5 morons "armed" with boxcutters to drive commercial aircraft into buildings and that a "training camp" (or two) in Afghanistan was hardly crucial for carrying that out.

    These Jihad morons have not been destroyed or even seriously reduced by our venturing into their prime recruiting grounds, in fact, the opposite is likely true - the "invasion" of their homelands by "infidels" actually aids in their recruiting efforts. Better to zap the Jihad "leaders" using intel, special ops and drones than to attempt to play nation builder in their chosen "safe zones" overseas.
    Sure, but the point was, by any measure, we are winning. American life goes on much like it always has. Meanwhile the jihadists fall back and die. The middles east is slowly being converted to democracy.

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