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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, it is uncanny. Except Reagan won 49 States on his reelection bid and his law requiring all hospital to treat patients regardless of insurance makes Obamacare a rather expensive redundancy, doesn't it?
    You can't beat a movie star for charisma, I'll give you that. He did a pretty good job spending us out of he OPEC recession too although the dropping of interest rates from 15% was the biggest mover of GDP and employment. Obama came in when rates were already rock bottom so he could not use rates to his advantage.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Putin is nothing but a belligerent KGB thug everyone knows that. Why you would side with him and Hezbolah is puzzling. Assad needs to go and Russia has no business getting involved at all, no less selling them arms. They are no doubt still dumping their cold war arsenal, luckily it is all pretty outdated.
    So when did you discover that Putin was a thug ? Putin appeared on my radar screen back in the mid 90's. He's more Mafioso than KGB.

    And when did I say I sided with Putin ? Please quote me, pretty please. I hope I don't have to wait to long or ignored.

    Russia/Soviet Union have had close ties going back to the 60's during the Cold War and established a forward naval base at Tartus, Syria in 71.
    That Russian naval base is still their and the Russians have been dumping a lot of money modernizing the base and reinforcing the base with Russian Marines.

    I know two weeks ago there were 12 Russian warships operating from Tartus.
    Where's the U.S. Navy ? Ask Obama. Again no U.S. Navy CSG or ARG in the 6th Fleet AOR. Obama making the same mistake he made when the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya was attacked and four Americans were murdered because of dereliction of duty by Obama by not having a military response at sea in the 6th Fleet AOR to respond to such an incident.
    When the past eleven President were always able to have a carrier battle group/carrier strike group in the Mediterranean 24/7 and Obama isn't capable of doing it.

    Remember, there are 30,000 Russian civilian citizen residing in Syria.

    Possible scenario:

    What Russia did in Georgia a back in 08. Send in a hundred thousand troop, put blue helmets on them and call them peace keepers. Deploy the troops between the rebels and Assad's forces.

    Here's the difference between Putin and the Russians compared with Obama. Russians are feared but respected by Muslims because there is no such thing as "political correctness" in Russia. They don't have a PC policy of winning anyone's hearts and minds. And both sunnies and Shiites seem to know this and they respect it out of fear. Also nobody wants to confront a Russian soldier drunk on vodka.

    I just heard on the news that Putin was talking to the British PM about Syria. It was mentioned the other day, it's impossible for Russia to work with Obama on ending the conflict in Syria. Lets face it, Obama isn't a statesman, he surrounded himself with second rate people. Has a failed foreign policy. And you know what Russia and many other countries think of John Kerry ? Not even Kerry's former Communist allies during the 70's respect Kerry because Kerry back stabbed the American soldier while they were still on the battlefields of Vietnam.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
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    Here's the difference between Putin and the Russians compared with Obama. Russians are feared but respected by Muslims because there is no such thing as "political correctness" in Russia. They don't have a PC policy of winning anyone's hearts and minds. And both sunnies and Shiites seem to know this and they respect it out of fear. Also nobody wants to confront a Russian soldier drunk on vodka.

    I wish it was true these days
    Unfortunately, Russia's influence in the ME is pretty much non existent and mainly extends only to the Shia dominated countries (that's pretty much only Iran and Syria).
    The Sunnah dominated countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, etc...) are cooperating with US and other European countries and they are no longer respect or afraid of Russia - mainly because of Russia's dumb, corrupt and weak foreign policy in the region and in the world.
    Russia downgrades relations with Qatar over attack on ambassador | Russia | RIA Novosti

    Moreover, Russia is also suffering from the rise of the ugly head of the PC movement, the only ones that are not affected by it yet are the residents of the rural areas of the country.

    But Russian soldiers are still the best in the world (yeah that's my national pride talking) despite all the attempts of "modernization"/total corruption/plain theft and more....there is a Russian saying explaining this;
    "You know why Russian soldiers are the best int he world? They simply have nothing to lose."

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post

    I wish it was true these days
    Unfortunately, Russia's influence in the ME is pretty much non existent and mainly extends only to the Shia dominated countries (that's pretty much only Iran and Syria).
    The Sunnah dominated countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, etc...) are cooperating with US and other European countries and they are no longer respect or afraid of Russia - mainly because of Russia's dumb, corrupt and weak foreign policy in the region and in the world.
    Russia downgrades relations with Qatar over attack on ambassador | Russia | RIA Novosti

    Moreover, Russia is also suffering from the rise of the ugly head of the PC movement, the only ones that are not affected by it yet are the residents of the rural areas of the country.

    But Russian soldiers are still the best in the world (yeah that's my national pride talking) despite all the attempts of "modernization"/total corruption/plain theft and more....there is a Russian saying explaining this;
    "You know why Russian soldiers are the best int he world? They simply have nothing to lose."

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    Would you say that the Russian bear has come out of hibernation ?
    But any where that the head of PC appears is a bad sign. Look at what it has done to America.

    Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood have their eyes on Syria ? That would be Egypt.

    The Sauds are Sunnies.

    As I believe, it's a religious war just like the Iraq insurrection was. The vast majority of all of the Iraqi citizens that were killed during the Iraq war weren't killed by Americans but by other Arabs.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Would you say that the Russian bear has come out of hibernation ?
    He's trying. However, he is very weak (economically, military and socially/ideologically wise).

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    But any where that the head of PC appears is a bad sign. Look at what it has done to America.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood have their eyes on Syria ? That would be Egypt.
    The ones that really have their eyes on Syria are Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, they slowly work their way towards a Sunnah dominated ME.
    A large portion of the opposition forces in Syria are Sunni Isalmists (not Al-Qaeda) funded and supported by Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Sauds are Sunnies.
    Yeah, they are Salafi Sunnies.


    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    As I believe, it's a religious war just like the Iraq insurrection was. The vast majority of all of the Iraqi citizens that were killed during the Iraq war weren't killed by Americans but by other Arabs.
    Yes, it started as a civil uprising but quickly grew to a confrontation between the Shia and the Sunnah, over the dominant role in the ME.
    Hence, the calls for Jihad from multiple Sunni clerics. Hence, the influx of foreign Sunni and Shia (Hezbollah) fighters...etc.


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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You can't beat a movie star for charisma, I'll give you that. He did a pretty good job spending us out of he OPEC recession too although the dropping of interest rates from 15% was the biggest mover of GDP and employment. Obama came in when rates were already rock bottom so he could not use rates to his advantage.
    So you think all a President has to do is fiddle with the interest rates to create a new economy and all will be right? That would mean that Obama inherited those low interest rates from George Bush, so you can blame Bush for that. Perhaps Obama should increase interest rates, but Justabubba claims the President doesn't have any control over the economy, so that may not help either.

    It's easy to see that Obama and his supporters are confused about interest rates, the economy, the rapid increase in the use of food stamps, failed foreign policies, the ongoing scandals, the Presidents job description, and what all of this means for the future of the country.

    Now the Obama administration or the NSA, (we don't know if BHO had any input or just read about it in the newspaper) is constructing a $2 billion spy center in Utah when they can't even build a fence along the Mexican border, or keep two terrorists from Chechnya entering the United States, despite repeated warnings. It seems a cruel joke has been played on the American people.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Would you say that the Russian bear has come out of hibernation ?
    But any where that the head of PC appears is a bad sign. Look at what it has done to America.

    Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood have their eyes on Syria ? That would be Egypt.

    The Sauds are Sunnies.

    As I believe, it's a religious war just like the Iraq insurrection was. The vast majority of all of the Iraqi citizens that were killed during the Iraq war weren't killed by Americans but by other Arabs.
    Absolutely. It's Muslim killing Muslim but Islamists, and the Leftists, will blame Americans for these ongoing killings, just as they did in Iraq.

    It seems that the West looks at these countries as having defined borders whereas many Arabs, and Muslims, don't quite see it that way. That's most evident when they say they want Jews off "our land". It's best to avoid involvement, keep Israel safe, and wait until the sand settles.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post

    I wish it was true these days
    Unfortunately, Russia's influence in the ME is pretty much non existent and mainly extends only to the Shia dominated countries (that's pretty much only Iran and Syria).
    The Sunnah dominated countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, etc...) are cooperating with US and other European countries and they are no longer respect or afraid of Russia - mainly because of Russia's dumb, corrupt and weak foreign policy in the region and in the world.
    Russia downgrades relations with Qatar over attack on ambassador | Russia | RIA Novosti

    Moreover, Russia is also suffering from the rise of the ugly head of the PC movement, the only ones that are not affected by it yet are the residents of the rural areas of the country.

    But Russian soldiers are still the best in the world (yeah that's my national pride talking) despite all the attempts of "modernization"/total corruption/plain theft and more....there is a Russian saying explaining this;
    "You know why Russian soldiers are the best int he world? They simply have nothing to lose."

    Cheers,
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    Hw do you feel about this, Fallen? (not the photos!) Russian Army to become a Muslim-Majority Army by 2015-2020.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hardly. Rather it was one more example of Obama being a lot of hot air. In the hopes that maybe a few of those who blindly support him might WTFU.
    So Obama does what Republicans kept wanting, and now he's full of hot air? That makes no sense.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    We did the same thing in Viet Nam.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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