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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I haven't read this whole thread, but given the Republican reaction to the red line mentioned by Obama before, I trust all Republicans in this thread are now joyful with the news Obama is enforcing his red line statement and are supporting the President's decision 100%. Correct?
    What is his decision?

    Obama's Syria Policy a Mess | The Weekly Standard

    "So is the White House arming the rebels or not? There’s been confusion since yesterday afternoon when Sen. John McCain said on the Senate floor that Obama “will announce that we will be assisting the Syrian rebels by providing them with weapons and other assistance. I applaud the president’s decision.” Shortly after, McCain retracted his remarks, explaining that “the president has not made the final decision on arming.” Afterward, McCain’s spokesman, Josh Rogin reported, said the senator had been told by reliable sources that Obama was planning to arm the rebels."

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    While unlike the above posters I don't think this is some smoke screen to bring attention away from the domestics scandals or issues, I still am outraged by the sending of American weapons to these rebels. Have we not learned? It boggles the mind how when history repeats itself we still look back and choose the easy option for the short term compared to looking down the road at what might be better. Ok, Asad "used" chemical weapons against his people, that is awful. But why does the United States have to but in? Why can't the UN do it? If the UN had asked the United States t lend a hand then I would be a little less upset, but c'mon Obama, use your head man.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I haven't read this whole thread, but given the Republican reaction to the red line mentioned by Obama before, I trust all Republicans in this thread are now joyful with the news Obama is enforcing his red line statement and are supporting the President's decision 100%. Correct?
    So youre assuming hypocrisy with no facts.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    To be fair, we should have bombed Syria a long time ago. They have been a state sponsor of terrorism against the US and our allies for decades. We have been at war with them for a long time.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    And I would prefer the US to do a full job/or not at all, instead of doing themselves, the ME, and the world a "favor" by doing a "half job" that would only worsen the situation on the ground.
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    But therein lies the real problem. The United States itself is a "half job" these days with neither side agreeing on what should be done - and so it is with their 'Allies'. There will be more riots on American streets, more political advantages sought through dissension, more money being spent that has to be borrowed from nations watching from the sidelines, ever more enemies created, and all with the added uncertainty of not knowing precisely who the enemy is at the moment.

    It's about time the United States, like other medium to large powers, assumed observer status rather than jumping into further uncertainly and its long term consequences. I realize where this might possibly lead for the Syrian people and the Middle East in general, but waiting would seem to be the only pragmatic thing to do at this time. No more blood and treasure wasted on a world that will only turn on Americans the first chance they get anyway.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But therein lies the real problem. The United States itself is a "half job" these days with neither side agreeing on what should be done - and so it is with their 'Allies'. There will be more riots on American streets, more political advantages sought through dissension, more money being spent that has to be borrowed from nations watching from the sidelines, ever more enemies created, and all with the added uncertainty of not knowing precisely who the enemy is at the moment.

    It's about time the United States, like other medium to large powers, assumed observer status rather than jumping into further uncertainly and its long term consequences. I realize where this might possibly lead for the Syrian people and the Middle East in general, but waiting would seem to be the only pragmatic thing to do at this time. No more blood and treasure wasted on a world that will only turn on Americans the first chance they get anyway.
    There is simply no room for common sense and logic in DC.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Sure here is a source.....Basic Wiki, just some slight minor search off the top.

    In May 2013, SOHR stated that at least 41,000 of those killed during the conflict were Alawites.

    Government forces.....

    Pro-government combatants Casualties

    Syrian military and police.....24,617 killed
    Shabiha and National Defense Force.....17,031 killed
    Lebanese Hezbollah.....111146 killed

    The pro-government militia fatalities figure also includes: 1,000 civilian government officials, 117 members of the Iranian Basij,[30] 30 members of the Palestinian PLA, 19 Palestinian PFLPGC members at least [B]18 confirmed Iraqi Shia militiamen and one member of the Lebanese Amal Movement.

    Except one death (August 2011),[28] all of the Hezbollah fatalities have occurred since September 2012[41] and have been confirmed via Hezbollah sources or SOHR documentation.....snip~

    Casualties of the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also in regards to your other post of the Assad killing 2/3rds.....how is that when the Rebels have killed 41k of those Aligned with Assad. Which doesn't even Count the Rebels massacring Christians and lopping off heads of other Civilians for any that show support to Assad. Notice how they aren't reporting on all those Civilian deaths caused by and committed by the Rebels.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    2) What do you propose be done in the event that Assad drastically ramps up the use of chemical weapons on the Syrian people - mirroring his strategy of "use tepidly, gauge international reaction, the increase dramatically when the intn'l community turns a blind eye" which he has used again and again first with artillery bombardments, then air strikes, then SCUD missiles, and now appears to be using with chemical weapons? Nothing?
    The bolded is completely false. There has yet to be any evidence presented as to who used chemical weapons. I just had a massive argument with JredBaron about this. We know that chemical weapons have been used, but we don't have any evidence of who used them.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    That seems to be new only in that we are openly doing it.

    NATO vs. Syria | The American Conservative

    Unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to Iskenderum on the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers, a skill they acquired confronting Gaddafi’s army. Iskenderum is also the seat of the Free Syrian Army, the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers.
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