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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I am not projecting You stated



    I proved that the first article completely did not back up what you said as it stated "The newspapers sources refused to have their names revealed but said that “some kind of chemical weapon” has been used in the country. They could not tell whether Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces or the rebels were responsible."

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    In the last article I posted, I quoted the article as stating that there was not any proof as to who had used chemical weapons. "It has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator," Paulo Pinheiro, who chairs the UN commission of inquiry, told a news conference in Geneva."


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    Thus, you did not address the points that I made that 1) Your first article completely went against what you stated and 2) You ignored where I quoted the article as stating that we didn't know who had used the chemical weapons. You replied with quote from that same article stating the chemical weapons were used. We are not arguing about whether or not they were used, but who used them.




    In terms of likelihood of who is more likely to have chemical weapons, it is the Syrian government, however that doesn't change the fact that there is still no evidence as to who used chemical weapons.





    I explained that they are with the rebels (as was stated in the article) and when the fighting occurs, they have to depend upon said rebels to protect them, thus they could be potentially biased in favor of the rebels, seeing as how those rebels are protecting them.
    How do you know there is not more evidence that was not released to the public. France and GB have determined that Assad used Sarin gas also.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    How do you know there is not more evidence that was not released to the public. France and GB have determined that Assad used Sarin gas also.
    I don't know. Personally, I would like to see such evidence released as if my tax dollars are going to go to support these guys, at the very least I should have access to the evidence that Assad used chemical weapons.

    EDIT: We need to keep in mind that the US government has lied to us before about what was going on. Just look at Gaddafi: The Top Ten Myths in the War Against Libya CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Very well. You have proven me incorrect. I concede this debate.

    I only maintain that if chemical weapons were used, they were certainly of the Syrian army, as I seriously doubt that the rebel forces would be able to manufacture Sarin gas.
    It was a good debate though. I definitely had to look and think on my feet :P I always enjoy that.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    It was a good debate though. I definitely had to look and think on my feet :P I always enjoy that.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I don't know. Personally, I would like to see such evidence released as if my tax dollars are going to go to support these guys, at the very least I should have access to the evidence that Assad used chemical weapons.

    EDIT: We need to keep in mind that the US government has lied to us before about what was going on. Just look at Gaddafi: The Top Ten Myths in the War Against Libya CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
    It seems you like to give totalitarian dictators the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any reason to believe that Assad would not use the chemical weapons that are at his disposal?

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I aim to please.



    Tempting, but I can only get my ass kicked so many times in one day. Maybe for another issue.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It seems you like to give totalitarian dictators the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any reason to believe that Assad would not use the chemical weapons that are at his disposal?
    I am not giving Assad the benefit of the doubt, nowhere have I stated that. All I am saying is that at the moment, we still do not have any evidence of who used those chemical weapons. We only have allegations.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It seems you like to give totalitarian dictators the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any reason to believe that Assad would not use the chemical weapons that are at his disposal?
    i believe that Obama's warning of consequences should chemical weapons be employed would dissuade him from using them
    unless he had run out of conventional options

    my concern is that this allegation may be a ruse to get involved in a country's governance, not unlike the false claim that iraq had WMDs
    fool me once, shame on you; fool me again, shame on me ... something the shrub obviously did not understand. hopefully, Obama can do better
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It seems you like to give totalitarian dictators the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any reason to believe that Assad would not use the chemical weapons that are at his disposal?
    Yeah...common sense.

    Why on Earth would Assad authorize the use of chemical weapons if he knew that was EXACTLY the excuse Obama was waiting for to arm the rebels?

    The guy has been a dictator for many years - he maybe a crappy human being...but surely he is not THAT stupid.


    And besides, where is this evidence that Obama talks about?

    There is no friggin' way I am taking his word for ANYTHING.

    And you are naive if you believe him just because he says it is so.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    U.S. to increase military support to Syria rebels | Reuters

    Just announced. The US has confirmed it has undeniable proof that Assad in fact used chemical weapons against his own people and, as a result, the US will begin supplying lethal military aid to the rebels for the first time since the war began 2 years ago.

    About damn time.
    How many wars is that now for our Nobel Laureate? And where is the UN and the rest of the world? Why is it always the US?

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