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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    What about the tragedies in Bahrain, where Bahrani civilians were killed with US manufactured weapons and is a regime that we give support to?
    Then we should do something there as well.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Actually, there has yet to be any actual proof is either groups used chemical weapons (UN: No clear proof of Syria chemical arms use - Middle East - Al Jazeera English)

    We have yet to see the "proof" the Obama administration says they have and I doubt that we will see it at all.
    Chemical weapons used in Syria, according to British newspaper sources | euronews, world news

    Chemical warfare in Syria

    Syria medics treat hundreds of rebels for 'symptoms of chemical exposure' | World news | guardian.co.uk

    They kinda did. Fortunately not on a larger scale, but they certainly did.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Also, a little more on the weapons being sent to the rebels:

    -They only include small arms and ammunition, perhaps some anti-tank weapons. No anti-aircraft weapons.

    -The weapons will only be provided to the Supreme Military Council, which excludes Islamic Extremist groups.

    Source: http://www.understandingwar.org/site...Army-24MAR.pdf
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.


    How about you read your own links?


    Chemical weapons used in Syria, according to British newspaper sources | euronews, world news

    The British press has released details of the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian conflict.

    The Times reported that evidence has been discovered in a soil sample smuggled out of Syria. The newspapers sources refused to have their names revealed but said that “some kind of chemical weapon” has been used in the country. They could not tell whether Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces or the rebels were responsible.

    Chemical warfare in Syria

    "Reporters for Le Monde spent two months clandestinely in the Damascus area alongside Syrian rebels. They describe the extent of the Syrian tragedy, the intensity of the fighting, the humanitarian drama. On the scene during chemical weapons attacks, they bear witness to the use of toxic arms by the government of Bashar al-Assad."

    Those reporters are with the rebel fighters and thus more likely to be biased in their reporting as when the ish goes down, they will have to depend upon the rebels to protect them. In addition to this, it doesn't change what the UN has reported. Yet, there is also some confusion, in regards to your last link, look here: Syrian sarin claims undermined by eyewitness accounts | World news | The Observer

    Also some recent info: Eyewitness News: UN believes chemical weapons were used in Syria

    "There are reasonable grounds to believe that limited quantities of toxic chemicals were used. It has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator," Paulo Pinheiro, who chairs the UN commission of inquiry, told a news conference in Geneva.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    How about you read your own links?
    What's reading?

    Those reporters are with the rebel fighters and thus more likely to be biased in their reporting
    What basis do you have for that claim?

    And as for your last link, read it yourself. "There are reasonable grounds to believe that limited quantities of toxic chemicals were used."

    Who do you think is more likely to have access to chemical weapons, the rebels or the Syrian government?
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    What's reading?



    What basis do you have for that claim?

    And as for your last link, read it yourself. "There are reasonable grounds to believe that limited quantities of toxic chemicals were used."

    Who do you think is more likely to have access to chemical weapons, the rebels or the Syrian government?
    So are you going to ignore the fact that your first link completely contradicted your statement that the Syrian government used chemical weapons?

    In regards to my last link, I bolded and the important part which you are ignoring, that there is currently no evidence of who used those chemical weapons.

    As for my claim on the reporters, I explained it in my post.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    So are you going to ignore the fact that your first link completely contradicted your statement that the Syrian government used chemical weapons?
    Let me ask you yet again: Who is more likely to have chemical weapons? The rebels? Or the Syrian Government?

    In regards to my last link, I bolded and the important part which you are ignoring, that there is currently no evidence of who used those chemical weapons.
    I did not ignore it. You should stop projecting; it's not a good debate tactic.

    As for my claim on the reporters, I explained it in my post.
    And what about it? The reporters are not their to support the Syrian rebel cause; they are there to report. What exactly is the bias coming in?
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I did not ignore it. You should stop projecting; it's not a good debate tactic.

    I am not projecting You stated

    I proved that the first article completely did not back up what you said as it stated "The newspapers sources refused to have their names revealed but said that “some kind of chemical weapon” has been used in the country. They could not tell whether Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces or the rebels were responsible."

    You responded with

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    What's reading?

    In the last article I posted, I quoted the article as stating that there was not any proof as to who had used chemical weapons. "It has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator," Paulo Pinheiro, who chairs the UN commission of inquiry, told a news conference in Geneva."


    You responded with

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post

    And as for your last link, read it yourself. "There are reasonable grounds to believe that limited quantities of toxic chemicals were used."

    Who do you think is more likely to have access to chemical weapons, the rebels or the Syrian government?

    Thus, you did not address the points that I made that 1) Your first article completely went against what you stated and 2) You ignored where I quoted the article as stating that we didn't know who had used the chemical weapons. You replied with quote from that same article stating the chemical weapons were used. We are not arguing about whether or not they were used, but who used them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Let me ask you yet again: Who is more likely to have chemical weapons? The rebels? Or the Syrian Government?
    In terms of likelihood of who is more likely to have chemical weapons, it is the Syrian government, however that doesn't change the fact that there is still no evidence as to who used chemical weapons.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    And what about it? The reporters are not their to support the Syrian rebel cause; they are there to report. What exactly is the bias coming in?
    I explained that they are with the rebels (as was stated in the article) and when the fighting occurs, they have to depend upon said rebels to protect them, thus they could be potentially biased in favor of the rebels, seeing as how those rebels are protecting them.
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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Who said anything about 'controlling' women? Again, what is the will of the Syrian 'people'? And you still haven't given a real answer as to why we should involve ourselves in the affairs of a nation involved in a civil war? And, what if the Russians are correct? What if the administration is lying about the use of chemical weapons? What definitive evidence has Obama provided? Which rebels are we supporting? How do we determine where the military hardware goes? Can we be sure that no American will die in Syria? How many innocent civilians will US military equipment kill?
    You have no right to ask about innocents if you just want to sit by and watch them die. A Govt. does not have the right to make war on its people. If they won't negotiate they must be removed.

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    Re: US will supply military weapons to the Syrian rebels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
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    Very well. You have proven me incorrect. I concede this debate.

    I only maintain that if chemical weapons were used, they were certainly of the Syrian army, as I seriously doubt that the rebel forces would be able to manufacture Sarin gas.
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