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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You can't be denied for a pre-existing condition, so why on earth would you pay for insurance when it's cheaper to pay the penalty?
    Go ahead and do that. Why on earth would you not? Unless something crazy were to happen, like you have to go to the hospital for appendicitis and have your appendix taken out and your stuck with a 30,000 hospital bill. But I'm sure you'd still be laughing all the way to the bank. Haven't you ever actually sat down and thought about the consequences of your actions at all? I understand you think it would be easy to just go and sign up for insurance, but it would be really hard to sign up while strapped down in an ambulance on the way to the hospital in the event of an emergency. And even if you pulled out your smart phone, I'm pretty sure you couldn't fill out the paperwork while under anesthesia. Other than that though, brilliant plan.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    My doctor already told me he will give me a discount if i pay up front cash for a visit. a lot of doctors will be doing the same. as a matter of fact many doctors are going to not except any insurance at all
    Obama care will bankrupt insurance companies
    And if you ever are in an accident and rushed to the hospital are you going to try to fill out the forms during the ambulance ride or maybe while under anesthesia? You're plans are thoughtless and stupid, and pretty much they are the reason why we needed ObamaCare in the first place. Some people are to naive to be trusted to take care of themselves in the first place. Apparently some people are too thick headed to understand the real world and that you can't plan for something like a heart attack. So you go ahead with your brilliant plan
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    It's insurance. You can't just look at a single year and say "see you're over paying!" Because then you overlook that one year where you needed emergency surgery with a short stay in the ICU, where you shelled out a few thousand but didn't have to pay the other hundred thousand dollars of your bill. Do you really not understand that or are you being intentionally thick headed?
    Wow, has the story changed on this, or what?

    I thought this was a GREAT idea. So in other words, 98 percent of us are going to see our annual costs SKYROCKET, while a few seriously ill people will benefit no better than they did before with their employee health coverage.

    What a great deal this is for......nobody with a full-time job.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Bottom line: Obamacare is just a another bigass tax on the middle and upper classes.

    Smart folks already knew this.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And if you ever are in an accident and rushed to the hospital are you going to try to fill out the forms during the ambulance ride or maybe while under anesthesia? You're plans are thoughtless and stupid, and pretty much they are the reason why we needed ObamaCare in the first place. Some people are to naive to be trusted to take care of themselves in the first place. Apparently some people are too thick headed to understand the real world and that you can't plan for something like a heart attack. So you go ahead with your brilliant plan
    i will pay the hospital bill afterwards. hospitals are not allowed to deny life saving emergency treatment. it is the law. I'm not the only one who will be doing this over 2/3 polled are not sure if they will be getting insurance or will just pay the fine

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Wow, has the story changed on this, or what?
    Nothings changed. You just still apparently don't understand what insurance is.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Bottom line: Obamacare is just a another bigass tax on the middle and upper classes.

    Smart folks already knew this.
    its not a tax on the upper class they can afford insurance

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    i will pay the hospital bill afterwards. hospitals are not allowed to deny life saving emergency treatment. it is the law. I'm not the only one who will be doing this over 2/3 polled are not sure if they will be getting insurance or will just pay the fine
    For example. My friend just had an aneurism. He had the surgery and had to spend 12 days in the ICU, then 2 days in a private room at the hospital. Apparently this is standard procedure. And the final bill is over 275,000 dollars that he knows of right now, and he still hasn't received every single final bill. So you really want to tell me that you're going to cut the check out to the hospital for that in the event of an emergency? Do you think that most people would?

    Your views are short sighted and naive at best.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    It expands choice. Do you even get how the exchanges work? It's basically an online site that you can go to, fill out your info, and all the insurance companies in your state will show you comparable plans that have the same coverage levels, along with a clear price. What that does is allow clear price comparisons and clear coverage options. You don't have that now. You have to contact every company individually, compare the coverage of random plans, and with how they word stuff you'd practically have to hire a lawyer to know what's really covered. And that's what your side doesn't get.
    The horror! Thank god the gov came to save the day on that one. Thanks, now instead of having to do my own homework the government does it for me.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Lets take a step back, the whole purpose of the ACA is to create a program for those who want to purchase but cannot. People who are determined not to purchase still can do this, but with a cost.
    You mean a fine for not doing what the government desires. It's funny how everyone thinks getting fined for not doing what someone else wants you to do somehow means it's a choice. When you were grounded as a kid for not following the rules did your parents think it was a choice to not follow the rules? No. Did you think it was a choice? No. Was it a choice? NO! There is a reason there is a punishment.

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