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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because all the rest do.

    Surely you jest....That is the most absurd reasoning I think I have ever heard you attempt in the years I've known you to pass on ... There are a myriad of factors that make the US unique from any other country on this planet, and you fail to take them into consideration with such a simplistic notion. Plus, I would offer with this type of reasoning you make the same mistake that WHO made in 2000, so it is no wonder you think they got it right, when experts on the subject disagree.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you're just trying to be irritating in your assertions. In any case instead of reading into what I am saying, you should just stick to what I say and address that, not what you think I am saying.
    Again, you can't know what they "REALLY" wanted to do. Sorry.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Oh you under-estimate our politicians. We could certainly, and most likely will, do worse.
    Not really possible. It's appropriate to try and improve when you spend as much as we do. What will hurt them most is listening to folks who don't know what they're talking about (you death panels, socialism, killing granny).

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not really possible. It's appropriate to try and improve when you spend as much as we do. What will hurt them most is listening to folks who don't know what they're talking about (you death panels, socialism, killing granny).
    Sure it's possible.

    We are on track to spend more for what we currently have now and that is just the initial phase. It could be all downhill from there!
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Surely you jest....That is the most absurd reasoning I think I have ever heard you attempt in the years I've known you to pass on ... There are a myriad of factors that make the US unique from any other country on this planet, and you fail to take them into consideration with such a simplistic notion. Plus, I would offer with this type of reasoning you make the same mistake that WHO made in 2000, so it is no wonder you think they got it right, when experts on the subject disagree.
    All countries are unique. But systems are systems. We pay more; have less access. That's merely a fact.

    And sure, you can always find someone to say something, but again, there is a pecking order. Your side, like with GW, are always relying on the low end or outliners, and not the mainstream accepted and supported sources.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Sure it's possible.

    We are on track to spend more for what we currently have now and that is just the initial phase. It could be all downhill from there!
    Hard to say. They didn't really tackle the problem, and bowed to tea party (mostly) and republican pressure. They had a better plan before the nonsense. But it will never get better until we stop the silliness and try to have a rational discussion.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hard to say. They didn't really tackle the problem, and bowed to tea party (mostly) and republican pressure. They had a better plan before the nonsense. But it will never get better until we stop the silliness and try to have a rational discussion.
    Well they sure did a bang up job estimating Medicare's costs and that was just for a tiny portion of the population. Trust me, it can always be worse.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, you can't know what they "REALLY" wanted to do. Sorry.
    I can have an opinion, sure I can....
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    All countries are unique. But systems are systems. We pay more; have less access. That's merely a fact.
    Nope, you don't get to declare what is or isn't a fact....Everyone has the same "access" to health care in this country, what we are talking about is method of payment for service.

    And sure, you can always find someone to say something, but again, there is a pecking order. Your side, like with GW, are always relying on the low end or outliners, and not the mainstream accepted and supported sources.
    I don't rely on "outliners", I use bold when making important points... Anyway, you have two logical fallacies in two sentences here....you go man....
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Well they sure did a bang up job estimating Medicare's costs and that was just for a tiny portion of the population. Trust me, it can always be worse.
    Truth is they do an amazing job. They take the worse of an aging population that lives lonGer and requires more care. Neither individuals nor insurance companies would do better.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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