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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Good lord...
    Good lord, so you don't read the bill yet call out those who have for not understanding what it in it. You sound like Congress, let's pass it before reading it. Works out great every time huh.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Good lord, so you don't read the bill yet call out those who have for not understanding what it in it. You sound like Congress, let's pass it before reading it. Works out great every time huh.
    You reading it did you little good apparently, so I stick by my statement.

    Lets say you and I both sit down to learn about a mortgage before signing it. You read it, but I have a lawyer who deals exclusively with this stuff read it and explain it to me in detail. Do you think you'll know more than me? **** no. You'd be sitting there stuck on the third page wondering what the hell it's talking about. I would too. I have no problem with you reading it, go for it, have fun with it, go crazy, I wish you luck. But if you've already read most of it, then I stand by my comment, because you've shown pretty clearly here that you have no idea what's actually in it.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Good lord...

    1. Yes, it's better to read up on many different sources about the bill than actually read the bill.
    That explains how people can swallow things hook line and sinker.....

    You accept someone else's understanding of things, without viewing the source yourself, much less on a subject you are trying to debate with 'facts'?

    Good lord, indeed......
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    But if you've already read most of it, then I stand by my comment, because you've shown pretty clearly here that you have no idea what's actually in it.
    So you know what you've been told and that's good enough for you huh. Well hope you have been told correctly because it's not what you've been told that counts but what it actually says that counts.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    So you know what you've been told and that's good enough for you huh. Well hope you have been told correctly because it's not what you've been told that counts but what it actually says that counts.
    Have you read every mortgage, contract and major piece of legislation that you've ever signed or has ever been passed through congress? Do you read every letter, every time, before you click accept on your computer?

    You don't have to play stupid. If there was a section in the healthcare bill that was outrageously different than how it was advertised then we'd have heard about it before it was passed. The best the average person could do is listen to those educated on the matters and take in as many sources as possible. If you have a problem with that then have fun spending day and night reading.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    That explains how people can swallow things hook line and sinker.....

    You accept someone else's understanding of things, without viewing the source yourself, much less on a subject you are trying to debate with 'facts'?

    Good lord, indeed......
    I don't accept some one person's understanding of things. I never said that. You should re-read what I wrote.

    An my point stands. If you went through and read a dissertation on particle physics and I had top physicists explain it to me point by point, who do you think would understand it better? The person that has no understanding of particle physics and tries to interpret the paper or the guy that has the experts explain everything to him in terms he can understand?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I don't accept some one person's understanding of things. I never said that. You should re-read what I wrote.

    An my point stands. If you went through and read a dissertation on particle physics and I had top physicists explain it to me point by point, who do you think would understand it better? The person that has no understanding of particle physics and tries to interpret the paper or the guy that has the experts explain everything to him in terms he can understand?
    Actually, after someone explains a particular situation I don't normally understand, I then go back to the source document(s) and compare what they said to what I understand the document to say.

    Besides, I do read and comprehend legalese.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Have you read every mortgage, contract and major piece of legislation that you've ever signed or has ever been passed through congress? Do you read every letter, every time, before you click accept on your computer?
    I've read every mortgage contract I've signed and every other contract I've signed.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Actually, after someone explains a particular situation I don't normally understand, I then go back to the source document(s) and compare what they said to what I understand the document to say.
    Right, and have you ever signed a mortgage? Have you ever supported a piece of legislation and understood that legislation without reading it?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Right, and have you ever signed a mortgage? Have you ever supported a piece of legislation and understood that legislation without reading it?
    Yes, I've signed a mortgage, and I sat there and read and understood the documents... all of them. Drove the closing agent nuts.

    I don't support legislation with out reading it.

    Do you?
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