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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think you can find many, if anybody in these boards that have consistently called Obama a socialist, or Kenyan as a pejorative....This is a lie told by progressives defending Obama by trying to call names, and stifle any opposition....It's bull.
    Which again tells us more about the creepiness of the baggers. Both 'Kenyan' and 'socialist' and much worse have been used by the baggers when they don't need to be identified. But when they understand that their creepiness will reflect badly on them, they disappear into their holes as rodents are known to do.

    I'm just glad there's nobody here that's got the huevos (eggs) to defend them!

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    'Kenyan' and 'socialist'
    obama's not a muslim

    he's a zionist

    LOL!

    BBC News - US says it will give military aid to Syria rebels

    clinton made him do it

    obama, "too cautious" on syria, looks "like a total wuss"

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    onward christian soldiers...

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Which again tells us more about the creepiness of the baggers. Both 'Kenyan' and 'socialist' and much worse have been used by the baggers when they don't need to be identified. But when they understand that their creepiness will reflect badly on them, they disappear into their holes as rodents are known to do.

    I'm just glad there's nobody here that's got the huevos (eggs) to defend them!
    That's just nonsense. Can't people like you accept that not everyone is going to agree with your ideology? And, that instead of lying about others, and calling names, you need to make your arguments like an adult, and with facts?
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    A two thousand door deductible is nothing compared to how high medical bills can get in catastrophic circumstances.
    I can pay it without a problem. They people that wanted this so bad had no idea, can't pay it, and are going to crap a brick when it's asked of them.

    And there STILL won't be anywhere near enough money to pay for the catastrophic stuff you mention. Doctors are running for the hills.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I can pay it without a problem. They people that wanted this so bad had no idea, can't pay it, and are going to crap a brick when it's asked of them.

    And there STILL won't be anywhere near enough money to pay for the catastrophic stuff you mention. Doctors are running for the hills.
    That remains to be seen.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    'Obamacare' health care reform ALREADY forcing doctors to close practices - Washington Times
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That remains to be seen.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That remains to be seen.
    Oh good Lord! Why is it that progressives always need to see the destruction stemming from the their misguided plans before they will even contemplate that they got it wrong.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh good Lord! Why is it that progressives always need to see the destruction stemming from the their misguided plans before they will even contemplate that they got it wrong.
    Cause they're never wrong dontcha know!!!

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Cause they're never wrong dontcha know!!!
    I know..It's just so frustrating...
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Adopting the Center for American Progress line of BS I see....This lie has been debunked over and over since it was first uttered by the likes of Chris Matthews, Nancy Pelosi, and the like....



    So, the meme is simply not true.
    What 'lie' are you stating has been debunked?

    That the individual mandate was 'invented' by conservatives or that the individual mandate was a conservative/center-right plan.

    Guy Incognito said the PACA is a center-right healthcare reform plan. Your article is about the mandate.

    If it's about 'inventing' the mandate, Stuart Butler has built himself a strawman.

    From your quote of the article, Butler says
    ObamaCare "adopts the 'individual mandate' concept from the conservative Heritage Foundation," Jonathan Alter wrote recently in The Washington Post. MSNBC's Chris Matthews makes the same claim, asserting that Republican support of a mandate "has its roots in a proposal by the conservative Heritage Foundation." Former House speaker Nancy Pelosi and others have made similar claims.
    In this quote he says that Matthews, Pelosi and others says the mandate "has its roots" - not the strawman, 'invented'.


    If it's about the individual mandate being a conservative/center-right plan.

    The PACA mandate may not be exactly the same as Butler's and the Heritage's mandate, but the concept and roots are most certainly there.


    The Tortuous History of Conservatives and the Individual Mandate - Forbes
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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