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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you saying the free market wont react to an increased demand for doctor services?
    Why? Is there something wrong with the free market?
    Maybe the problem is your assumption that I am some mindless supporter of "the free market" because I politically define myself as "slightly Conservative"? Well, 1)that would not address the issues outlined above, 2) I hold no such dogmatic views, 3) look up Tu quoque and stick to discussing the topic

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, in theory he could apply for coverage in the hospital, or his spouse. I'm sure the Hospitals would be MORE than happy to send a social worker around to your room to help you with the paper work.
    That's the problem with theories, they sometimes don't play out very well in reality.

    Before ACA, insurance companies could put your application on hold for eternity, while they determine if you are worth the risk for them to insure you for whatever reason they desire.

    The ACA took some of those reasons away from them. Such as per-existing conditions or financial. The ACA even limited the holding/waiting period to 90 days.

    Now, you can sign up for coverage after being diagnosed with cancer, but could have to wait for your policy to go into effect for up to 90 days and hopefully that will be enough time for you to begin expensive chemotherapy and survive.

    For accidents or sudden illness...well, maybe you saved enough from paying penalties rather than premiums to keep you out of bankruptcy.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    What a pathetic and sick joke. Private, for profit health care companies which exclude people who need insurance and even disqualify and cheat those who they have already rooked into their moneymaking schemes. And the American people just continue to suuuccccck it all up like it's kooool aid.

    However, no matter how the rabid right tries to hide the fact that it's a big problem, the mere fact that threads such as this are popular and busy gives the whole wicked game away.

    Blame Obama, he wants to make 'his' people well again!
    Get the meaning of 'his'?

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) you realize primary care physicians are already in short supply and there is an already existing deterrence to govt payments?



    Then why are you trying to deflect from the discussion to bring up some red herring about UHC?




    And they call me chuckles ...



    because it reads like something that is suppose to give the illusion of profound meaning when it is simply a statement without any meaningful content
    There's very little I don't know with all the doctors and nurses in my family , but as I said, they have encouraged getting more with the reform. And frankly, few are going to go to retail. If doctors overreact, there will likely be a response in return. But all of this is still part of the same problem, our unwillingness to really address the problem.

    I bring up UHC because it would address the problems. Few can be happy with where we are. It is fruitless to limit the discussion to merely good or bad, as that is too simplistic and doesn't move us anywhere.

    And it is the truth none the less. It is the direction we should be moving towards.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that doesn't make sense
    I read everything you wrote. You said feel free to give links to things you missed. I did.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's very little I don't know with all the doctors and nurses in my family , but as I said, they have encouraged getting more with the reform.
    How would having doctors or nurses in your family lend you any expertise on the subject, when being a nurse or doctor wouldn't even do that?

    And frankly, few are going to go to retail. If doctors overreact, there will likely be a response in return.
    This is a pretty weak means to address the issue above.


    But all of this is still part of the same problem, our unwillingness to really address the problem.

    I bring up UHC because it would address the problems. Few can be happy with where we are. It is fruitless to limit the discussion to merely good or bad, as that is too simplistic and doesn't move us anywhere.
    You were just actively defending the program. When issues were raised you couldn't address you brought uhc.

    Clearly you're trying to deflect

    And it is the truth none the less. It is the direction we should be moving towards.
    You have done nothing to show its anything more than an empty platitude ...

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    How would having doctors or nurses in your family lend you any expertise on the subject, when being a nurse or doctor wouldn't even do that?
    Oh, it gives me insight, not to mention the years I out in the profession. I've been involved at nearly every level


    This is a pretty weak means to address the issue above
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    The point is its not really a serious issue. Not whereas there won't be physicians to see patients. It's a hill, and not a mountain.


    You were just actively defending the program. When issues were raised you couldn't address you brought uhc.

    Clearly you're trying to deflect
    You clear have little if what I've written. I defend the program only so far as against hyperbole and misinformation.

    You have done nothing to show its anything more than an empty platitude ...
    I'm starting to think this is some game on your part.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, it gives me insight, not to mention the years I out in the profession.
    lol, no it doesn't

    I've been involved at nearly every level
    Again, administering care does not make you an expert in HC policy


    The point is its not really a serious issue. Not whereas there won't be physicians to see patients. It's a hill, and not a mountain.
    Again, simply trying to dismiss something is not actually addressing it

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because there is no need to charge extra to others for those thy treat who can't pay. That $16 bandaid should not exist if everyone is covered.
    The simple status of being "covered" by something does not make the price tag of a health care service drop.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, no it doesn't



    Again, administering care does not make you an expert in HC policy




    Again, simply trying to dismiss something is not actually addressing it
    That's not what I said actually. I said it gave me insight into what doctors will do. Go back and reread.

    Dismissing what really isn't a huge problem is appropriate when that is the case.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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