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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the whole bill is one big stupid concept. so why would it not be believeable if that wasn't in there?
    what stupid ass decided no businesses under 50 employees would have to provide insurance and not expect businesses to keep who they hire under 50? what idiot thought it was a good idea to not force business to provide insurance for part timers and not expect business not to make every one part time?
    They would be the same idiots who passed it before reading it.
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    They would be the same idiots who passed it before reading it.


    they had to pass it before they could read it. didn't you know that?

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    they had to pass it before they could read it. didn't you know that?
    And that makes the huge assumption that they can actually read!
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL. Why are you so hung up on a 3rd world country like Greece. Nothing about Greece resembles the USA....nothing.


    wait for it....

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    its not gaming the system it is buying a service when you need it and not buying when you don't.
    Good lord, the denial is strong in you.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    For the poor the cost of the doctor's visits simply isn't a concern since the old adage remains that you can't squeeze blood from a turnip. At the higher income levels the the savings for not buying insurance are greater than the out of pocket expenses for a doctors visit.

    Let's look at someone making $80,000. In the first year of the penalty she could either pay $3,800 for insurance, or $895 in penalties. If she chose to take the penalty she would have $2,905 free and clear to pay medical expenses that year. The average doctor's visit is about $300. She could see the doctor 9 times that year, pay out of pocket, and still come out even.

    If people are chronically ill then obviously they would weigh their annual costs versus savings... but there in lies the critical flaw in the Obamacare system: It only makes sense to participate in the new system if you spend more on medical bills than the cost of insurance. But those people are a net loss for insurance companies to insure, so they can only afford to insure them because all the healthy people who don't go to the doctor also buy insurance, and are a net positive cash flow for the insurance companies. Under the Obama plan those people who are not chronically ill would be foolish to buy insurance.



    Without a change to the cost of the penalty I give them three years. The government will shell out hundreds of billions trying to keep the insurance industry afloat, but saving them in this stupid new system would break the bank.
    Or you have totally underestimated the American people and they will welcome paying a bit more for the peace of mind of having coverage. Not everyone is a penny-pinching skinflint who's only aim is to cheat the govt.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Good lord, the denial is strong in you.
    what denial? that i have to buy insurance so your premiums will be cheaper? If you think you should have a say so if i buy insurance or not then i should have a say so that welfare moms should be forced not have any more children so my taxes will be cheaper
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    And that makes the huge assumption that they can actually read!
    They have staffers for that.
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Or you have totally underestimated the American people and they will welcome paying a bit more for the peace of mind of having coverage. Not everyone is a penny-pinching skinflint who's only aim is to cheat the govt.
    You're right! We should also change the US tax system to a voluntary program.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    They have staffers for that.
    Great, so when do we elect the next batch of staffers?
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