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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Nothings changed. You just still apparently don't understand what insurance is.
    I know what it is. You think it's charity.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I know what it is. You think it's charity.
    Nothing to do with charity. Have fun with your guessing game though.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    For example. My friend just had an aneurism. He had the surgery and had to spend 12 days in the ICU, then 2 days in a private room at the hospital. Apparently this is standard procedure. And the final bill is over 275,000 dollars that he knows of right now, and he still hasn't received every single final bill. So you really want to tell me that you're going to cut the check out to the hospital for that in the event of an emergency? Do you think that most people would?

    Your views are short sighted and naive at best.
    Well, in theory he could apply for coverage in the hospital, or his spouse. I'm sure the Hospitals would be MORE than happy to send a social worker around to your room to help you with the paper work.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You are missing that the penalty for not participating is lower than the cost of participating even with the subsidies included.
    I double checked that on my computer to make sure-- 500 < 3500 evaluated as TRUE.

    Since 500 IS less than 3500, it seems that participation is cheaper than the penalty.

    Can you explain how 500 > 3500?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    this is what you do. you pay the fine/tax for not having insurance and if you go to the doctor for a cold you pay out of pocket and when you do get an illness that requires expensive treatment then you buy insurance because it will be a preexisting condition so your covered they cant deny you . it is what i will be doing. My doctor already told me he will give me a discount if i pay up front cash for a visit. a lot of doctors will be doing the same. as a matter of fact many doctors are going to not except any insurance at all
    Obama care will bankrupt insurance companies
    What do you do when you're in that car accident and are in a coma for 3 weeks and were unable to get insurance from the ambulance driver?
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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Go ahead and do that. Why on earth would you not? Unless something crazy were to happen, like you have to go to the hospital for appendicitis and have your appendix taken out and your stuck with a 30,000 hospital bill. But I'm sure you'd still be laughing all the way to the bank. Haven't you ever actually sat down and thought about the consequences of your actions at all? I understand you think it would be easy to just go and sign up for insurance, but it would be really hard to sign up while strapped down in an ambulance on the way to the hospital in the event of an emergency. And even if you pulled out your smart phone, I'm pretty sure you couldn't fill out the paperwork while under anesthesia. Other than that though, brilliant plan.
    Do you know for sure coverage isn't retroactive to the time of the accident or illness? In 3000 pages it may or may not be, nobody knows.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I double checked that on my computer to make sure-- 500 < 3500 evaluated as TRUE.

    Since 500 IS less than 3500, it seems that participation is cheaper than the penalty.

    Can you explain how 500 > 3500?

    ... are you being dense on purpose? The PENALTY for not having insurance will be $280 which is less than $500.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    For example. My friend just had an aneurism. He had the surgery and had to spend 12 days in the ICU, then 2 days in a private room at the hospital. Apparently this is standard procedure. And the final bill is over 275,000 dollars that he knows of right now, and he still hasn't received every single final bill. So you really want to tell me that you're going to cut the check out to the hospital for that in the event of an emergency? Do you think that most people would?

    Your views are short sighted and naive at best.
    ok so what if that happens let government and hospital eat the cost.
    All my life i worked and my money went to someone else who made poor decisions.
    i paid for that welfare mom who spits out kids every year because she made the decision to have unprotected sex. my money goes towards the idiot who dropped out of high school and now can only get a part time minimum wage job and i have to feed his kids
    so what if i take a chance that might force someone else to pay my hospital bill, why are you concerned about me not getting insurance you are not concerned about that welfare mom or that high school drop out. why are you not giving them a hard time

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    I don't know about you guys, but I'm learnin' SPANISH.

    That way, if I ever really have to go to a hospital, I'll just pretend I'm an illegal alien. They'll waive my deductible then.
    Liberals: Demanding the freedom to write laws to take freedoms away from people they don't agree with.

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    Re: Obamacare: Is a $2,000 deductible 'affordable?'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So you are admitting that this obamasurance is worthless unless you have a major illness.
    Pretty much the case, however, can't be too major an illness or you get death panelled.

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