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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

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    On a side note, is anyone else tied of reading stories about repeat offender criminals?

    Maybe it's time we start having a discussion as to whether our sentences are too lenient.
    To balance the books, and to meet court mandates to relieve overcrowding, Governor Brown has forced the transfer of crimminals from state prisons to county prisons. Already suffering significant budget deficits, the counties have been releasing hardcore criminals back onto the streets.

    The bottom line is that preserve the pay and benefits of public employees, and to do a smoke and mirror job on the budget deficits, liberal/progressives who control the state prefer felons be on the street, rather than have citizens protected.

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Self defense can be achieved without a high powered assault rifle! If a 72 year old woman can defend herself with a revolver than anybody can.
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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    DA you forgot taxes. Remember death and taxes. They'd want the old lady to pay more taxes, depend on her grubbynut, and of course die when they (grubbynut) fail to save her they'd want her estate and form a committee to determine why they failed to save her. The committee would determine the offender's village failed at raising him and adjust their taxes accordingly for an in school toy gun buy back program (yes that's happening).


    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Does it not stand to reason that liberals wanted her and her husband to die?

    I mean, I feel like I'm constantly reading liberals accusing conservatives of wanting children to die because they support the Second Amendment. Shouldn't the opposite be true?

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Shotguns!

    If you shoot a pistol in a populated area you could inadvertently kill a neighbor.

    Buck shot or bird shot is all you need. (preferably bird shot, then you probably won't kill them)

    That said, I'm surprised someone in Anaheim even has a gun. lol

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Self defense can be achieved without a high powered assault rifle!
    There are no such things as high powered assault rifles, assault rifles use an intermediate cartridge like a .223/5.56, high powered rifles (.306, .308, 338 lapua, 7.62x54R) if semi/fully automatic are called Battle Rifles, like the AR-10, FAL, M14 etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    If a 72 year old woman can defend herself with a revolver than anybody can.
    A situation where a revolver works, like a single attacker/intruder, does not render the revolver ideal in all situations where the capacity of a semi-automatic would be warranted, or multiple magazines, or even a shotgun/rifle. Your logic is quite non-sequitur here.

    Revolver rounds like the .357 Magnum are in fact overkill and runs the risk of over penetrating and hitting resident or neighbor compared to a 115 grain 9mm hollow point or even better, shotgun shot.
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    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Does it not stand to reason that liberals wanted her and her husband to die?

    I mean, I feel like I'm constantly reading liberals accusing conservatives of wanting children to die because they support the Second Amendment. Shouldn't the opposite be true?
    Yeah, let's go ahead and politicize this thread as quickly as we can. There always seems to be a rush to be the first to throw the words "liberals" or "conservatives" around in every thread. We recognize you got to be first on this thread. You must be proud.










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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Does it not stand to reason that liberals wanted her and her husband to die?
    How do you come to such an idiotic conclusion?

    I mean, I feel like I'm constantly reading liberals accusing conservatives of wanting children to die
    Ah, you feel like this is the case...

    Do you have any evidence of these dastardly liberals making such claims?

    Shouldn't the opposite be true?
    Not to a rational person, no.

    In any case, I can't possibly fathom the purpose of this thread.

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There is no doubt in my mind that this home was targeted by this jerk. Two old people. That's no coincidence.

    My mom is 83, her partner is 82. There are some druggies across the street who asked her one day who lives with her. I take that very seriously. I don't know what she could do to counter that, but I will never forget they asked.
    She could have said. "Well, there's me, my partner, there's Smith & Wesson, and there's Mr. Mossberg. Why do you ask?"










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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Self defense can be achieved without a high powered assault rifle! If a 72 year old woman can defend herself with a revolver than anybody can.
    Revolvers are nice. My primary carry gun is a revolver (with 2 speed loaders). HOWEVER, she's fortunate that there was a single intruder and that the one shot scared him enough to stop his advance. When I go into more urban areas I don't carry the revolver. I carry my Smith & Wesson M&P9 semi-auto and AT LEAST one additional magazine. In the rare circumstance that I have to go into a bad enough areas I'll carry BOTH guns and the additional ammo.

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    Shotguns!

    If you shoot a pistol in a populated area you could inadvertently kill a neighbor.

    Buck shot or bird shot is all you need. (preferably bird shot, then you probably won't kill them)
    Shotguns have their advantages. Not terribly concealable and not covered by most CCW laws for carry on the street, but in home defense they are useful. HOWEVER, you do not EVER shoot to wound. If you need to fire it is with the intent to KILL. If you aren't in a position to need to KILL, then you don't pull out the gun in the first place.

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    Re: Grandma, 72, shoots at home intruder in California, defends actions

    Good thing the missed shot didn't end up in a neighbors house.

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