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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    a victory for the morning after pill but a defeat for parental rights and a defeat for the right to life
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    False dichotomy. Vaccinations do not have anywhere near the life changing
    impact on lives as being pregnant does. 15 year old kids who don't want to have kids shouldn't be force to anymore who those that don't want to abort should be. Essentially, you're comparing apples and oranges.
    What ever happened to the moral choice to wait until you were at least an adult to have unprotected sex ?

    This pill just removes more of the consequence of unprotected sex, and among immature young people gives the wrong message.

    How life changing is it to have a STD at the age of 14 ?

    Look up the statistics and get back to me.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    its exactly what they are supposed to do, they classify drugs.
    Am i missing something?

    did they do something new i missed in the articles?
    Yep, the DEA and the Department of Health and Human Services classifies drugs in this country.

    The DEA also may begin an investigation of a drug at any time based upon information received from laboratories, state and local law enforcement and regulatory agencies, or other sources of information. Once the DEA has collected the necessary data, the Deputy Administrator of DEA,[14] requests from HHS a scientific and medical evaluation and recommendation as to whether the drug or other substance should be controlled or removed from control. This request is sent to the Assistant Secretary of Health of HHS. Then, HHS solicits information from the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and evaluations and recommendations from the National Institute on Drug Abuse and, on occasion, from the scientific and medical community at large. The Assistant Secretary, by authority of the Secretary, compiles the information and transmits back to the DEA a medical and scientific evaluation regarding the drug or other substance, a recommendation as to whether the drug should be controlled, and in what schedule it should be placed.

    The medical and scientific evaluations are binding to the DEA with respect to scientific and medical matters. The recommendation on scheduling is binding only to the extent that if HHS recommends that the substance not be controlled, the DEA may not control the substance.
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    Congress has the power to reschedule as well. The FDA has no authority here. Their mandate is to investigate the safety and efficacy of the drugs submitted for their review. They're like the Underwriters Laboratory.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    1.)The " Plan B" pill is first, NOT as effective as other methods of contraception, and isn't intended for routine use.

    2.)Barbiturates, for example greatly lower the effectivness of the pill, AND it does nothing to stop sexually transmitted diseases.

    3.) I think it's a failure for our society, as our ever devolving culture now, with our Presidents help moves towards the normalilasation of what are basivally kids having sex.

    4.) Obama, what a "cool dude".....he brought this up to a round of applause but ignored the increase in STDs among teen agers over the last 5 years.

    5.) He's a dirt bag are as any Politician that pushes a potentially dangerous drug for political expediency.
    1.) ok this has no impact on anything i said
    2.) see answer 1
    3.) Obama is actually against it
    4.) again meaningless to the topic at hand FDA/plan B
    5.0 he is a dirt bag for being against it but giving up the fight because it wasnt winnable? hmmm ok you are free to have that opinion but he isnt the topic.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Raise you hand if you have a daughter.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yep, the DEA and the Department of Health and Human Services classifies drugs in this country.



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    Congress has the power to reschedule as well. The FDA has no authority here. Their mandate is to investigate the safety and efficacy of the drugs submitted for their review. They're like the Underwriters Laboratory.
    so they did their job, thanks

    they classified the drug, other people tried to block that classification but then decided not to.
    The FDA simply did thier job.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Raise you hand if you have a daughter.
    i have one, 16
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    a victory for the morning after pill but a defeat for parental rights and a defeat for the right to life
    curious on your opinion of what parental rights are violated and how does this effect the right to life
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, that's the shame of it all. Historically, it's been women who were the nurturers and took commitments seriously. It's the glue that holds societies together.
    I had to think about that for a moment, because I rarely give any thought to the topic of "women"..............................

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so they did their job, thanks

    they classified the drug, other people tried to block that classification but then decided not to.
    The FDA simply did thier job.
    No, read it again, the FDA does not classify drugs. They certify as to safety and efficacy. The HHS secretary takes their input and makes recommendations to the DEA. In this case the HHS secretary recommended the drug not be OTC. The court stepped in here and farked up deciding for the FDA where they do not have the regulatory power. The justice department should have never backed down on this.

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