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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    This story only goes to prove that some slippery slopes are more slippery than others.


    Have these hormone supplements been tested on pre-pubescent girls? Because they will now be taking these drugs...

    Thus is the demented mindset of the American culture... we fight like hell to get GMO corn out of the produce section of the grocery store while moving the morning after pill to the candy aisle.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) its 100% objective and now i dont advocate that. I advocate the FDA
    doing their job and not making moral judgements but scientific and medical ones. Sorry you misunderstood.

    2.) you are welcome to this opinion, many seem he gave up the fight cause it couldnt be won. Everybody has opinions

    3.) again this is just your opinion supported by zero facts, not to mention me and the president do NOT agree so which is it?

    4.) weird, so you think this BC will magically make all morals disappear and make everybody sluts and pimps. None of the other BCs do just this one. Yeah, that makes sense. AGain the FDA doesnt care about your morals or mine, they are meaningless, their job is the safety and effectiveness of the drug, they have no business pushing morals.

    5.) more hyperbolic nonsense

    6.) yes you are if you think the FDA should force your morals on others
    FFS, who gives a rats ass about the FDA ?

    Sorry, I tend to put my trust in long held ideological and ethical beliefs that PREVENT unwanted and pregnancy AND STD's.

    The FDA is not my standard for anything really, let alone justification for the devolotion of our society.

    Sorry you got so sucked into the premise, that the " Govt knows whats best" and that you need their approval to uphold your corrupted ideology and perpetuate your agenda.

    And morals ? What are you Eleven years old ? They exist for a damn good reason, they're the product of thousands of years of societal ethos and guidelines that prevents stupid sh** like teenagers with STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

    Society evolved to be as efficient and safe as possible and yes, that includes limiting unethical behaviour that spreads STDs and allows for unwanted pregnancies.

    Oh but wait, the FDA says its ok.....how pathetically bereft of fundamental morays are you to look up to a Federal orginization for your answers when determining whats acceptable and whats not ?

    It's like some people were literally raised by Chimpanzees and now the rest of society, who understands the benefit of self control, of character and ethics has to lower them selvesbto your corrupt standards because the fringe has the biggest mouths.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    1.)There is a significant issue in my mind with an agency which can FORCE food and drugs off the market, or allow them into the market to begin with.
    2.) I definitely do not find any Constitutional authority or mandate for any such agency, which in my mind means that any such group should not be linked to the Government.
    3.) I would be much more supportive of a PRIVATE organization which provided RECOMENDATIONS to the public on which food and drugs it felt were safe and/or self-regulating industry organizations which would police those groups without Government interference.
    4.)My morals and values will always supercede anything the FDA (or any other Government agency) tell me I can/cannot and/or should/shouldn't eat, drink, medicate myself with, etc....
    1.) no im fine with this as long as its science, health and medical reasons
    2.) im still ok with it and would prefer it be government otherwise they dont have the resources/authority needed
    3.) id never want a private firm and recommendations is exactly what the FDA does and without government they could never accomplish what they do.
    4.) ok

    who would run this organization?
    what would give them the authority?
    where would their money come from?
    what would they base their testing on?
    why would any drug and food companies listen to them?
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    FFS, who gives a rats ass about the FDA ?

    2.)Sorry, I tend to put my trust in long held ideological and ethical beliefs that PREVENT unwanted and pregnancy AND STD's.

    3.)The FDA is not my standard for anything really, let alone justification for the devolotion of our society.

    4.) Sorry you got so sucked into the premise, that the " Govt knows whats best" and that you need their approval to uphold your corrupted ideology and perpetuate your agenda.

    5.)And morals ? What are you Eleven years old ? They exist for a damn good reason, they're the product of thousands of years of societal ethos and guidelines that prevents stupid sh** like teenagers with STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

    6.) Society evolved to be as efficient and safe as possible and yes, that includes limiting unethical behaviour that spreads STDs and allows for unwanted pregnancies.

    7.)Oh but wait, the FDA says its ok.....how pathetically bereft of fundamental morays are you to look up to a Federal orginization for your answers when determining whats acceptable and whats not ?

    8.)It's like some people were literally raised by Chimpanzees and now the rest of society, who understands the benefit of self control, of character and ethics has to lower them selvesbto your corrupt standards because the fringe has the biggest mouths.
    1.) you do obviously
    2.) ok that has nothing to do with this topic but ok, this does prevent unwanted pregnancies.
    3.) good thing they arent factually responsible for the devolution our society then.
    4.) wrong again but you are free to make up strawman has you please, they wont work but you are free to continue
    5.) oooh failed insults now your posts are getting really desperate and emotional.
    this doesnt affect your morals or my morals one bit you are still free to have them, another strawman
    6.) this hasnt changed that
    7.) wrong again and yet ANOTHER strawman, do you have any other arguments, real one based on facts or truths or even logic and reality.
    the FDA didnt say anything was ok except the drug is safe. Please stop with the made up emotional strawmen.
    8.) weird this doesnt effect my morals at all nor does it make me lower my personal standards

    I must be unnaturally super strong in my believes, i mean how could i possible resist, if the FDA deemed something safe the amount of force and pressure thats puts on me is unfair, its biblical how much pressure is on me, its unbearable i must go do it now.

    sorry im just not buying all this over emotion.

    I understand if people dont agree, thats TOTALLY understandable but the FDA did nothing wrong nor will this make the world sex crazed zombies.

    My morals are still intact.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) no im fine with this as long as its science, health and medical reasons
    2.) im still ok with it and would prefer it be government otherwise they dont have the resources/authority needed
    3.) id never want a private firm and recommendations is exactly what the FDA does and without government they could never accomplish what they do.
    4.) ok
    1. I can't find any Constitutional mandate for the agency, so in my mind it should not exist, regardless of how much good it may do.
    2. I don't believe the agency has any legitimate authority to begin with.
    3. The FDA has the power to deny companies the ability to distribute their products in the USA. That's more than just a recommendation, and the agency "accomplishes" more than it should in my mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    who would run this organization? what would give them the authority? where would their money come from? what would they base their testing on? why would any drug and food companies listen to them?
    This would be a private company, like any other out there that makes recommendations on everything from restaurants to travel to cars. They would be a business, like any other. Initial capital would be outlaid by investors and income would be related to their research results. They would base their testing on whatever criteria they felt were relevant; whether it's scientific, moralistic, or otherwise. The goal of the company would be educating the PUBLIC, not regulating the food or drug companies.

    You need to realize that when it comes to buying anything, I believe two words should always be at the forefront of one's mind..... CAVEAT EMPTOR.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    1. I can't find any Constitutional mandate for the agency, so in my mind it should not exist, regardless of how much good it may do.
    2. I don't believe the agency has any legitimate authority to begin with.
    3. The FDA has the power to deny companies the ability to distribute their products in the USA. That's more than just a recommendation, and the agency "accomplishes" more than it should in my mind.



    4.)This would be a private company, like any other out there that makes recommendations on everything from restaurants to travel to cars.
    They would be a business, like any other.
    5.) Initial capital would be outlaid by investors and income would be related to their research results.
    6.) They would base their testing on whatever criteria they felt were relevant; whether it's scientific, moralistic, or otherwise.
    7.) The goal of the company would be educating the PUBLIC, not regulating the food or drug companies.

    You need to realize that when it comes to buying anything, I believe two words should always be at the forefront of one's mind..... CAVEAT EMPTOR.
    1.) hey if you say so and you are welcome to that opinion, i happen to disagree because of the good they do
    2.) again you are welcome to that, im glad they are there
    3.) seems i was told earlier in the thread they just make recommendations then somebody else acts, maybe that info was wrong? i didnt check it out becuse i didnt care nor did it matter to anything i was talking about at the time. DEA maybe?

    4.) so some random company with no credentials or power
    5.) why? why would people invest? are they going to make a profit somehow?
    6.) this is a huge failure only science and health need be the concerns, morals should never be art of it.
    7.) they cant objectively educating them unless they do not use morals and who would care what they say?
    why would we listen
    what happens when some drug or food kills 1000 or more people cause we have no FDA?
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) hey if you say so and you are welcome to that opinion, i happen to disagree because of the good they do
    2.) again you are welcome to that, im glad they are there
    3.) seems i was told earlier in the thread they just make recommendations then somebody else acts, maybe that info was wrong? i didnt check it out becuse i didnt care nor did it matter to anything i was talking about at the time. DEA maybe?
    1. Good, bad, indifferent - it's immaterial. It's an unConstitutional department, just like almost all of the others in the Federal Government and should not exist.
    2. See #1.
    3. I'm not 100% positive, but I'm fairly certain that the FDA sets the policy. I don't think they're the enforcement arm, but they DO set the policy.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    4.) so some random company with no credentials or power
    5.) why? why would people invest? are they going to make a profit somehow?
    6.) this is a huge failure only science and health need be the concerns, morals should never be art of it.
    7.) they cant objectively educating them unless they do not use morals and who would care what they say?
    why would we listen
    what happens when some drug or food kills 1000 or more people cause we have no FDA?
    4. They would have no more or less credentials or legitimate power than the FDA does, at least in my mind.
    5. Yes, there would be a profit. Just like Consumer Reports or any other group of that type.
    6. Some of us see science as being a secondary concern to morals and values.
    7. For the same reason people read Popular Mechanics, Car and Driver, Consumer Reports, etc....
    8. If there is malfeasance then they are gone after under the standard business regulations. Again - CAVEAT EMPTOR.

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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill [W:107]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    A victory for the morning-after pill
    Who were they playing and did they cover the spread?
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You are apparently still not getting it. I don't think it should be OTC and available to ANYONE. The morning-after pill has a higher dose of progesterone than regular birth control pills do, and regular birth control pills require a prescription. This isn't an issue of slutty girls, or of preventing sexual behavior. It's an issue of medical incompetence to make this widely available and OTC.

    Does this make my position clear?
    Progesterone is safe. So is Plan B. The only "medical incompetence" being demonstrated here is by those who insist that Plan B is dangerous.
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    Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

    What a boon for the child sex trafficking industry. Ariel Castro could have benefitted greatly.

    Wonder what the commercial name will be? "Child-B-Gone"?

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