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    Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

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    A Chinese spaceship blasted off Tuesday from a launch center in the Gobi Desert, carrying three astronauts on what is expected to be the Asian giant's longest crewed mission yet…

    The U.S. closed its space shuttle program in 2011 and is no longer aggressively pursuing manned space exploration, leaving Russia and China as the only two countries in the world capable of independently sending humans into space.


    Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert - CNN.com

    The contrast between China’s and the United States’ perspective on space is striking. It is almost an illustration of how rising powers seek to expand their opportunities, while status quo powers seek to harvest the fruits of their past legacy, sometimes putting them on a path of long retreat. Both paths are not compatible in the long-run.

    Ultimately, the nation that seeks to expand its frontiers gains valuable experience and insights. That experience and insights increase the prospects of their achieving qualitative, even potentially disruptive, breakthroughs. Whether such breakthroughs could have commercial and/or military applications remains to be seen, but space is an area rich with both kinds of possibilities.

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    I'm fine with sending drones, robots, and machines into space. It seems not only can they do all that man does but based on the rover on Mars - even more. Life support of astronauts costs so much it limits our exploration.

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    Russia, and even US have quite few years before China would be able to catch on.
    However, space always represented the ultimate frontier for humanity and only further manned (and unmanned) space exploration missions can produce ultimate role models and generate grand goals. Without these goals and heroes, US/Russia is in risk of becoming a nation of worms coasting on past glories to a very grim future.

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From CNN:

    A Chinese spaceship blasted off Tuesday from a launch center in the Gobi Desert, carrying three astronauts on what is expected to be the Asian giant's longest crewed mission yet…

    The U.S. closed its space shuttle program in 2011 and is no longer aggressively pursuing manned space exploration, leaving Russia and China as the only two countries in the world capable of independently sending humans into space.


    Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert - CNN.com

    The contrast between China’s and the United States’ perspective on space is striking. It is almost an illustration of how rising powers seek to expand their opportunities, while status quo powers seek to harvest the fruits of their past legacy, sometimes putting them on a path of long retreat. Both paths are not compatible in the long-run.

    Ultimately, the nation that seeks to expand its frontiers gains valuable experience and insights. That experience and insights increase the prospects of their achieving qualitative, even potentially disruptive, breakthroughs. Whether such breakthroughs could have commercial and/or military applications remains to be seen, but space is an area rich with both kinds of possibilities.
    The Chinese are re-inacting the postwar history of the US in every way possible in a totalitarian state.. They studied it and found that it was the most successful method of making the population happy in world history. The Govt. believes that will keep them in power the longest. They are also now building a system of superhighways to serve the millions of cars that they envison will give the people mobility.

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From CNN:

    A Chinese spaceship blasted off Tuesday from a launch center in the Gobi Desert, carrying three astronauts on what is expected to be the Asian giant's longest crewed mission yet…

    The U.S. closed its space shuttle program in 2011 and is no longer aggressively pursuing manned space exploration, leaving Russia and China as the only two countries in the world capable of independently sending humans into space.


    Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert - CNN.com

    The contrast between China’s and the United States’ perspective on space is striking. It is almost an illustration of how rising powers seek to expand their opportunities, while status quo powers seek to harvest the fruits of their past legacy, sometimes putting them on a path of long retreat. Both paths are not compatible in the long-run.

    Ultimately, the nation that seeks to expand its frontiers gains valuable experience and insights. That experience and insights increase the prospects of their achieving qualitative, even potentially disruptive, breakthroughs. Whether such breakthroughs could have commercial and/or military applications remains to be seen, but space is an area rich with both kinds of possibilities.
    Heya DS. Do you think the US letting Private industry taking the lead in Space is the Right thing to do, in order to push us further forward with matters in Space?

    My only concern is that we are giving both the Russians and the Chinese first dibbs in the possibilities of coming across ET's or other life looking to encounter our planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya DS. Do you think the US letting Private industry taking the lead in Space is the Right thing to do, in order to push us further forward with matters in Space?

    My only concern is that we are giving both the Russians and the Chinese first dibbs in the possibilities of coming across ET's or other life looking to encounter our planet.
    Actually the Russian space program is in pretty much the same state as US's (if not in worse) - no new technologies are being produced, rockets explode, satellites fail to work, billions are lost to fraud and bureaucratic corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Actually the Russian space program is in pretty much the same state as US's (if not in worse) - no new technologies are being produced, rockets explode, satellites fail to work, billions are lost to fraud and bureaucratic corruption.

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    Heya FA. I think we are being mislead. We might be aware of some things they are doing. But I doubt anything that is of a real value yet. As the Russians are on track to put a Hotel up in Space for 2016. Course the Russians did release how much it would cost to go. Still there is not much any can do in Space. Can't smoke, Cant drink Alcohol, Can't take Drugs, Cant have sex, truly there is not much they can do but watch TV and get on the internet. But it is a step forward in moving towards a base being built on the moon with a structure that that will allow Humans to be able to function as they do now and even with their vices. Evidenced.

    Russia will build world’s first space hotel ......

    Russia’s space program seems do be doing quite well, which is more than we can say about other countries at the moment; they recently announced plans to build a hotel in space.



    According to the released plans, the hotel will orbit 217 miles above ground, and it will be able to host 7 guests in 4 different rooms, all of which will have great views of… the Earth. Of course, the stay won’t be for everybody – a five day vacation at the hotel will cost £350,000.





    The Commercial Space station, as the hotel will be officially called will open in 2016. Even though if it will be more suited for tourists than the International Space Station, visitors can still expect sealed showers and the usual space food. Alcohol will be firmly prohibited, and even though they didn’t make it quite clear, I presume drugs will be too; also, visitors might be getting some unexpected guests – astronauts from the ISS using the hotel as an emergency. But the hotel won’t only host tourists.

    “The hotel will be aimed at wealthy individuals and people working for private companies who want to do research in space.”

    Russia will build world's first space hotel

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    Orbital Technologies for Russia is responsible.....first Tourist by 2017. But they will have others before then setting it all up.



    veil of secrecy has been pulled away to lay bare plans for a space hotel 350 km above Earth to serve wealthy private travelers. The Commercial Space Station is expected to welcome its first guests in 2016. The company Russian Orbital Technologies announced plans to launch a space hotel almost a year ago, in September 2010 -- and now the price-list for the trip has finally been disclosed. A voyage to the space hotel will not be exactly a budget vacation -- a five-day stay at the hotel is expected to cost about US$ 160,000/day. The whole trip, including a two-day transfer to the CSS on the Soyuz space ship will strip your wallet of about US$ 800,000.....snip~


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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya FA. I think we are being mislead. We might be aware of some things they are doing. But I doubt anything that is of a real value yet. As the Russians are on track to put a Hotel up in Space for 2016. Course the Russians did release how much it would cost to go. Still there is not much any can do in Space. Can't smoke, Cant drink Alcohol, Can't take Drugs, Cant have sex, truly there is not much they can do but watch TV and get on the internet. But it is a step forward in moving towards a base being built on the moon with a structure that that will allow Humans to be able to function as they do now and even with their vices. Evidenced.

    Russia will build world’s first space hotel ......

    Russia’s space program seems do be doing quite well, which is more than we can say about other countries at the moment; they recently announced plans to build a hotel in space.



    According to the released plans, the hotel will orbit 217 miles above ground, and it will be able to host 7 guests in 4 different rooms, all of which will have great views of… the Earth. Of course, the stay won’t be for everybody – a five day vacation at the hotel will cost £350,000.





    The Commercial Space station, as the hotel will be officially called will open in 2016. Even though if it will be more suited for tourists than the International Space Station, visitors can still expect sealed showers and the usual space food. Alcohol will be firmly prohibited, and even though they didn’t make it quite clear, I presume drugs will be too; also, visitors might be getting some unexpected guests – astronauts from the ISS using the hotel as an emergency. But the hotel won’t only host tourists.

    “The hotel will be aimed at wealthy individuals and people working for private companies who want to do research in space.”

    Russia will build world's first space hotel
    Hey MMC

    Sorry, but this doesn't really impress me much due to few reasons;
    a. The Russians as the Americans constantly promise to build stations, send people to Mars/Moon, so on and so on... However, a lot of these promises end up with nothing substantial.
    b. No new technologies or developments are involved in building such "station" - this new module simply looks like an elongated Soyuz module.

    Moreover, it is hard to find factual information online regarding this but here is only a taste of the actual situation with the Russian space program;
    2010:
    # "Proton-M" launch failure - December 2010

    2011:
    # "Rokot" failure to reach orbit - 01.02.2011
    # "Proton-M" failure to reach orbit - 18.08.2011
    # Soyuz Rocket launch failure - 24.08.2011
    # "Zenith 2SB" failure to reach orbit - 09.11.2011
    # Soyuz Rocket launch failure - 23.12.2011

    2012:
    # "Proton-M" launch failure - 06.08.2012
    # "Proton-M" orbit reaching failure - 08.08.2012

    2013:
    # "Zenith 3SL" launch failure - February 2013

    And this doesn't take in account various military rockets/satellites launch failures (though "Rokot" is one of them), and the uncovered corruption and theft in the Russian Space program.

    The Russian space program is unfortunately has a lot of problems and no one knows how or when it's going to recover (if at all).

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    Re: Chinese spaceship blasts off from Gobi Desert

    From what I can tell, it seems that while we may not be sending space ships into the deep anymore, we are focusing on other space-based technologies like satellites, but specifically with a military bend, however I could be wrong.

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