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'No Nile, no Egypt', Cairo warns over Ethiopia dam

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'No Nile, no Egypt', Cairo warns over Ethiopia dam | Reuters

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(Reuters) - Egypt's foreign minister, vowing not to give up "a single drop of water from the Nile", said on Sunday he would go to Addis Ababa to discuss a giant dam that Ethiopia has begun building in defiance of Cairo's objections.

Speaking to Egypt's state news agency MENA two days after the Ethiopian government flatly rejected a request from Cairo to halt the project, Mohamed Kamel Amr said Egyptians view any obstacle to the river's flow as a threat to national survival.

"No Nile - no Egypt," he said, highlighting the pressure on the Egyptian government, whose popularity is wilting in the face of economic troubles, to prevent the hydro power plant cutting already stretched water supplies for its 84 million people.

Last week, Ethiopia summoned the Egyptian ambassador after politicians in Cairo were shown on television suggesting military action or supporting Ethiopian rebels - a mark of the threat felt in Cairo from the plan to dam the Blue Nile, the tributary that supplies the bulk of water downstream in Egypt.

"Egypt won't give up on a single drop of water from the Nile or any part of what arrives into Egypt from this water in terms of quantity and quality," Amr told MENA, noting that Egypt has little rain and is effectively desert without its great river.

I'm surprised a dam has been tried before. The Blue Nile providing the most water, it's easy to see Egypt's objections.
 
And so the water wars begin...
 
And so the water wars begin...

The Water War began when China invaded Tibet to protect the head waters of its central water supply.
 
Ramifications of the dam aside, Ethiopia wants more electrical power. Who can blame them?
 
The Water War began when China invaded Tibet to protect the head waters of its central water supply.

Water wars have been around for some time.


Another kind of recent war...

Tri-State Water Wars GA, FL, ALA

For almost two decades, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida have been battling over the future allocation of water in two major river basins that cross their borders. Georgia wants to have enough water to allow metro Atlanta to continue growing, while Alabama and Florida—the downstream users—want enough water flowing for their own economic well-being. The dispute involves several federal agencies, courts and mediators, and its outcome is one of the most important environmental issues in the region today.​
 
Ramifications of the dam aside, Ethiopia wants more electrical power. Who can blame them?

Desert = solar. And they just want to **** with the little water their desert has. Go figure.
 
Desert = solar. And they just want to **** with the little water their desert has. Go figure.

Tell me do you have a technical background?
 
Tell me do you have a technical background?

Not going on display for you. Thanks though. If you have a question about the content, then ask it.

But I did stay at a Holliday Inn Express last night.
 
Not going on display for you. Thanks though. If you have a question about the content, then ask it.

But I did stay at a Holliday Inn Express last night.

Of course you won't, but you're welcome to explain your solar plan. I really want to know.
 
Of course you won't, but you're welcome to explain your solar plan. I really want to know.

EnviroMission Solar updraft tower.



100 mw.

And right now they are building one in Western Arizona.

Giant Arizona Solar Tower: High Energy with Hot Air

Unlike other concentrated solar power technologies, it uses a minimum amount of water. The ground under the greenhouse heats up as well and allows the unit to operate 24/7.​


Or do all three projects approved to be built in AZ for 520 mw....

US: Three renewable energy projects approved in Arizona and Nevada

U.S. Secretary of Interior Sally Jewell has announced the approval of three major renewable energy projects that are expected to deliver up to 520MW to the electricity grid.

The 350MW Midland Solar Energy Project and the 70MW New York Canyon Geothermal Project are located in Nevada, and the 100MW Quartzsite Solar Energy Project is located in Arizona.​


How's that for starters?
 
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Water wars have been around for some time.


Another kind of recent war...

Tri-State Water Wars GA, FL, ALA

For almost two decades, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida have been battling over the future allocation of water in two major river basins that cross their borders. Georgia wants to have enough water to allow metro Atlanta to continue growing, while Alabama and Florida—the downstream users—want enough water flowing for their own economic well-being. The dispute involves several federal agencies, courts and mediators, and its outcome is one of the most important environmental issues in the region today.​

Disputes between nations are a little more serious than internal strife IMHO
 
EnviroMission Solar updraft tower.



100 mw.

And right now they are building one in Western Arizona.

Giant Arizona Solar Tower: High Energy with Hot Air

Unlike other concentrated solar power technologies, it uses a minimum amount of water. The ground under the greenhouse heats up as well and allows the unit to operate 24/7.​


Or do all three projects approved to be built in AZ for 520 mw....

US: Three renewable energy projects approved in Arizona and Nevada

U.S. Secretary of Interior Sally Jewell has announced the approval of three major renewable energy projects that are expected to deliver up to 520MW to the electricity grid.

The 350MW Midland Solar Energy Project and the 70MW New York Canyon Geothermal Project are located in Nevada, and the 100MW Quartzsite Solar Energy Project is located in Arizona.​


How's that for starters?


Rob, apparently there are issues with that project.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/news/articles/20130530arizona-solar-project-hurdles.html

However there is another project that just got the green light for construction near Quartzite, AZ.

Feds approve solar-power project proposed near Quartzsite
Quartzsite Solar Energy Project - HOME
 
Disputes between nations are a little more serious than internal strife IMHO

Agreed. Was just saying that the fights have been around. Although I agree that they will get much worse. Which seems to be a great time to invest in desalinization technology.
 
Rob, apparently there are issues with that project.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/news/articles/20130530arizona-solar-project-hurdles.html

However there is another project that just got the green light for construction near Quartzite, AZ.

Feds approve solar-power project proposed near Quartzsite
Quartzsite Solar Energy Project - HOME

That blows that the deal with California fell through. I sure hope it still gets built. With an operational staff of less than 50 people producing 100 mw... that's rather impressive. They still intend to break ground next year so I wouldn't be surprised if that California power company was pulling a barter move to get a better price per watt.
 
Desert = solar. And they just want to **** with the little water their desert has. Go figure.

It's purdy dog-gone windy in the desert, too. I'm thinking the Etiopians have noticed the failure of wind and solar.
 
Someone could stop the whole dam project by introducing snaildarters into the river.
 
That blows that the deal with California fell through. I sure hope it still gets built. With an operational staff of less than 50 people producing 100 mw... that's rather impressive. They still intend to break ground next year so I wouldn't be surprised if that California power company was pulling a barter move to get a better price per watt.

Fewer jobs and more costly energy? Pardon me if I'm not convinced.
 
It's purdy dog-gone windy in the desert, too. I'm thinking the Etiopians have noticed the failure of wind and solar.

Yet the Germans haven't. Probably because Ethiopians are so much more technologically knowledgeable and savvy than Germans I suppose.
 
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