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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh I beleive him far more than I beleive anyone in the Obama administration.

    First off, if you read article 215 in the Patriot Act it clearly spells out the limitations of what the NSA can do.

    Lets see, the Obama administration is in the middle of a scandal where they sic'ed the IRS on their political opponents and on any American who chose to organize a grass roots Conservative PAC.

    Only ideologues and idiots believe anything that comes out of Obama's mouth.
    More like the tail end or 18th hole of that so-called scandal....

    Only ideologues and idiots would NOT believe anything that comes out of Obama's mouth...

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

    You have forsaken the oath you took when you enlisted. You openly acknowledge the Constitution is a "means to and end." You are sworn, first and foremost, to protect the Constitution (and the rights contained within). You should be retroactively discharged for dereliction of duty. Good day, and gg.
    I believe he was out of the military, therefore this oath was irrelevant. However, if you must attach some significance to it; from his perspective, anyway, his actions were to defend the Constitution from domestic enemies: government tyranny.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
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    Here's a little news item for you--Congress, which represents us, is utterly corrupt. It is owned, lock, stock and barrel, by Wall Street and special interests. It don't give a flying fart for the american people, except a few good men, a distinct minority there.
    Maybe. A non-corrupted Congress would do the same thing, though, so it's a moot point.

    I think you've talked about fascism before. Wouldn't you say that one guy pushing his agenda, overruling the entirety of a democratically-elected government, is a little tyrannical? I don't think you'd accept that from, say, Obama or Bush. Congress says one thing, the Department of Justice agrees, and Obama/Bush just disregard that and do whatever they want?

    But because you agree with the guy, you seem willing to give him a pass. Interesting.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    So Snowden's in Moscow now...I hope he will be safe from extradition there.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Don't be obtuse

    You can't "rape" a piece of paper it's not a person
    You did take English in school no? I'd like you to pay particular attention to the dictionary's definitions #4, and #7...Which I have bolded for you to follow along easier....You CAN "rape" a piece of paper such as the constitution of the United States. And they are doing exactly that. But that is what Socialist do. They twist, hide, obfuscate, deflect, and attack freedom.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So Snowden's in Moscow now...I hope he will be safe from extradition there.
    Not me....I hope Russia does the right thing and turns him over.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Don't be obtuse

    You can't "rape" a piece of paper it's not a person
    Are you familiar with the notion of "figure of speech"? Figuratively speaking?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Maybe. A non-corrupted Congress would do the same thing, though, so it's a moot point.

    I think you've talked about fascism before. Wouldn't you say that one guy pushing his agenda, overruling the entirety of a democratically-elected government, is a little tyrannical? I don't think you'd accept that from, say, Obama or Bush. Congress says one thing, the Department of Justice agrees, and Obama/Bush just disregard that and do whatever they want?

    But because you agree with the guy, you seem willing to give him a pass. Interesting.
    To whom am I 'giving a pass'?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    This guy is no whistle blower....He is a traitor....Whistle blowers don't go hide in China, Russia, Cuba...etc...Traitors do.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Then you think that Snowden should come home?

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