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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    A FISA judge was presented with something that someone said was probable cause. The judge agreed, and several judges have agreed for almost a decade now. The probable cause is classified and no one would give you a clearance in the state you're in now, so you won't see it until it's declassified.

    That doesn't make anything illegal, though, sadly for you. You just don't like it. Keep in mind the difference.

    Hey, I have an idea! Why not sue them and take it to court! Then you can find out!
    In otherwords you have no evidence of any probable cause to search my phone records. Hell, you can't even think of any lol.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    Britain. Canada. So it's clearly not just the constitution.
    LOL! You apparently know nothing of history or current events.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    By claiming that these judges did not violate the 4th amendment and that what they did was legal, yes, you are saying that.
    Saying that judges can't break the law? No. Don't put words in my mouth- no one ever said judges couldn't commit crimes. I'm very aware the judges can speed and steal and murder and rape. That's called 'breaking the law'. Now, what you're talking about is ruling on something incorrectly. Sure they can. I guess even a bunch of them could, although that seems less likely. Regardless, it's still 'legal' until it's overt turned. Are you gonna over turn it from your bench, Your Honor? Until you do, it's legal.

    The point was to show you that judges can make illegal decisions also. Or was that too hard to understand?
    It was horrible logic. Let me guess, you're a Truther too, aren't you?

    No, legal does not depend on the legislative branch after a law is made.
    Who said anything about after a law being made? Are you putting words in my mouth again? Can't defeat my argument on its own, so you have to add to it?

    Who said anything about after a law was made?

    And the Patriot Act cannot trump the 4th Amendment as the Patriot Act is not an Amendment to the Constitution.
    No, it's a law. And the law has not been found unconstitutional. Laws against rape aren't in the constitution either. So?

    Parts of the Patriot Act have already been shot down due to those parts violating the 4th Amendment.
    The standing Patriot Act? No. Don't lie, please.

    That alone should be evidence enough to you that the 4th Amendment trumps the Patriot Act.
    You're not a judge, why do you keep pretending like you are? Or are you? Please let me know.

    Nope, I have given facts. None of which you have debunked yet.
    lol, you ARE a truther, aren't you?!
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In otherwords you have no evidence of any probable cause to search my phone records. Hell, you can't even think of any lol.
    I don't need any? I didn't ask for the warrant.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    LOL! You apparently know nothing of history or current events.
    lol kal'stang. Quick, what does the word legal mean?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol kal'stang. Quick, what does the word legal mean?
    I can gauruntee you that it is not what you think it means.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I can gauruntee you that it is not what you think it means.
    You can't even guarantee me you know how to spell guarantee.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    A FISA judge was presented with something that someone said was probable cause. The judge agreed, and several judges have agreed for almost a decade now. The probable cause is classified and no one would give you a clearance in the state you're in now, so you won't see it until it's declassified.

    That doesn't make anything illegal, though, sadly for you. You just don't like it. Keep in mind the difference.

    Hey, I have an idea! Why not sue them and take it to court! Then you can find out!
    There is no way that any reasonable suspicion/probable cause can be justified for monitoring the entire nation.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You can't even guarantee me you know how to spell guarantee.
    And this is where you have failed. When a person starts attacking another persons spelling then it is a sure sign that they have no actual truthful arguement.

    Because of this I think I have drummed you enough. Cya!
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    There is no way that any reasonable suspicion/probable cause can be justified for monitoring the entire nation.
    Well, several judges staked their careers on ruling otherwise. Now, it's either because they are evil overlords, bent on dominating the American people, crushing them down, or it's because they really thought it was both legal and provided a benefit far outweighing the cost.
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