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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    lol prof!

    prof thinks a court opinion equals law? How cute is this guy?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    No, they didn't. You think they did. I think they didn't. The law agrees with me. So...no. Apparently you don't know what 'criminal' means, and think it just means "something I think should be criminal". That's funny.
    No, the law does not agree with you. If you think it does then you need more education. People have a Right to not have their effects seized and examined except on proable cause. What probable cause did any part of our government have for authorizing such a huge datagrab of millions of peoples PRIVATE phone records? None. They might be able to make a case for at most a few hundred of them. But not for the millions of others. That is the law. That is fact.

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    Sure it does. And it does. So you lose. Sorry.
    So if the government came along and put camera's in your home and bugged your phone with in plain sight of you and told you that if you messed with any of it or tried to disrupt any of it then it automatically means that they should be allowed to invade your privacy? You must like tyrannical governments because that is exactly what you are espousing with such an idiotic set of comments.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    the plumbers' perspective, ugly and unwashed

    Asked if the newspapers were right or wrong to publish the information once they got it, 59 percent of respondents said The Washington Post and The Guardian were right, and 33 percent said wrong, according to a Gallup Poll on Wednesday.
    Independents were the most favorable to the newspapers, with 65 percent saying they were right.

    Overall, Americans disapproved of the programs described in the leak, 53 percent disapproving to 37 percent approving.

    Meanwhile, a separate poll released Thursday also found the public to be generally supportive of Snowden.
    A TIME poll found that 54 percent of respondents said Snowden “did a good thing” to release the information, while 30 percent disagreed.
    Poll: Media right to publish on NSA - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, the law does not agree with you. If you think it does then you need more education. People have a Right to not have their effects seized and examined except on proable cause. What probable cause did any part of our government have for authorizing such a huge datagrab of millions of peoples PRIVATE phone records? None. They might be able to make a case for at most a few hundred of them. But not for the millions of others. That is the law. That is fact.
    Really? Those federal judges just need more education from His Honorable Kal'Stang from www.debatepolitics.com huh? Those federal judges who oversaw this and ruled on its behalf must need to go to your Bonners Ferry law school, I guess.

    So if the government came along and put camera's in your home and bugged your phone with in plain sight of you and told you that if you messed with any of it or tried to disrupt any of it then it automatically means that they should be allowed to invade your privacy? You must like tyrannical governments because that is exactly what you are espousing with such an idiotic set of comments.
    Ummm....sure? If a judge found it to be legal, guess what? It would be legal. Do you even know what legal means? There seems to be a huge group of you here that think "illegal" just means "I don't like it" and "legal" means "I like it". Honestly, do you know what legal and illegal mean? Christ.

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    Awww, do you feel like a sad little ant? I'm sorry, big guy. Chin up.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    The truth is the constitution is a means to an end, not the end in and of itself. Which apparently you forgot?

    Or did you never know that at all?
    Nope I didn't. But apparently you forgot that the Constitution was made in order to form a more perfect union and to protect peoples rights. Not "form a more perfect union and violate peoples rights".
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    Nope I didn't. But apparently you forgot that the Constitution was made in order to form a more perfect union and to protect peoples rights. Not "form a more perfect union and violate peoples rights".
    And no one's rights were violated. Again, there's a difference between what you think and what the law has decided. No one ever told you that? Just because you think something should be illegal doesn't mean it is. Is that really such a hard concept for you to grapple with? I honestly don't get this. I don't think marijuana should be illegal at all, but I don't go around saying "OMG it's illegal to fine people for smoking it! because that's just plain wrong and nonsensical.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    lol prof is still posting!!!
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Those federal judges
    "unreasonable under 4th amendment"

    link above

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    lol prof
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