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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    I have to think about this specific aspect. On the one hand I approve of his initial actions revealing the data collecting. On the other hand, this is (potentially) troubling, though it has also occurred to me that they already "knew" and that all he really did was confirm.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    he didn't go to Congress first
    did merkley?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    We'll never know since he didn't go to Congress first. The other matter, his revelations of intelligence gathering that has nothing to do with surveillance of U.S. citizens, should not have occurred. It suggests that Snowden's issues with the government extended beyond any concerns about the scale of domestic surveillance.
    Or perhaps he revealed it in exchange for amnesty from his own government?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is for the people that I care for that document as the laws contained with in that document protects the people from a tyrannical government. Nice try on the emotional appeal and spin though.
    The document is for the people.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is for the people that I care for that document as the laws contained with in that document protects the people from a tyrannical government. Nice try on the emotional appeal and spin though.
    lol? I tried for the emotional appeal and spin? What is it you posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    The people you elected made that decision. If everyone (the whole country) knew about it, it wouldn't be as effective. Which is what we're going to have to deal with now, thanks to Snowden.
    1: You have no idea who he voted for. Just because someone was elected does not mean that everyone elected that person. Just the majority.

    2: The people that made that decision did so by violating peoples right to privacy. Which is in itself breaking the law. Funny how you are defending a criminal act while at the same time claiming to "care for the people".

    3: The government has no place making effective ways to spy on innocent people.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1: You have no idea who he voted for. Just because someone was elected does not mean that everyone elected that person. Just the majority.
    The general 'you'.

    2: The people that made that decision did so by violating peoples right to privacy. Which is in itself breaking the law. Funny how you are defending a criminal act while at the same time claiming to "care for the people".
    No, they didn't. You think they did. I think they didn't. The law agrees with me. So...no. Apparently you don't know what 'criminal' means, and think it just means "something I think should be criminal". That's funny.

    3: The government has no place making effective ways to spy on innocent people.
    Sure it does. And it does. So you lose. Sorry.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol? I tried for the emotional appeal and spin? What is it you posted?
    The truth. Which is why you tried to spin it into me "caring about a document more than the people" and by doing so tried to "shame" me. Sorry but it didn't work. Now why don't you try and actually address what I said instead of avoiding it? Do you deny that the Constitution has laws which protect the People from Tyrannical government? Or is what I said the truth?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The truth. Which is why you tried to spin it into me "caring about a document more than the people" and by doing so tried to "shame" me. Sorry but it didn't work. Now why don't you try and actually address what I said instead of avoiding it? Do you deny that the Constitution has laws which protect the People from Tyrannical government? Or is what I said the truth?
    The truth is the constitution is a means to an end, not the end in and of itself. Which apparently you forgot?

    Or did you never know that at all?
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