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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    False. The contract may be worth something close to that, but the company takes about half for admin, employee benefits and their fee.
    That's your assumption. You have no clue what was in his contract. I knew a few people (including a family member) who were offered first time contracts @ $115k after things were taken out by the company..
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    That's your assumption. You have no clue what was in his contract. I knew a few people (including a family member) who were offered first time contracts @ $115k after things were taken out by the company..
    War zone or hardship deployments?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I worked in a relevant field for almost 34 years. I retired in 2009 and am a contractor now. I have lived and worked in the environment you are discussing since 1976.
    ...... I think you may want to renegotiate your current compensation package. One of my good friends (stood at my wedding) was a SIGINTer with a mere 5 years experience and was offered $250K a year to go OCONUS as a contractor. Another friend of mine here in Okinawa is pulling $120K just as a regular IT guy. According to ClearanceJobs.Com's annual survey, the regular NSA guys with TS/SCI (not the contractors, who are paid larger salaries) are pulling down more than six figures in compensation, and that's before they get the locality pay of Hawaii. According to the OPM, that $100K mark get's crossed at GS-13 Step 7 for Hawaii.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    ...... I think you may want to renegotiate your current compensation package. One of my good friends (stood at my wedding) was a SIGINTer with a mere 5 years experience and was offered $250K a year to go OCONUS as a contractor.
    There are substantial premiums for war zone or hardship service, and if he's an independent contractor (vice working for a company) he loses half in taxes.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    War zone or hardship deployments?

    Hawaii is OCONUS.


    look, I'm just a regular all-source guy. But if someone were to tell me that they wanted me to go to Hawaii for only $100K a year, I would whip out the trusty ole Cost-of-Living calculator and explain to them politely why I was being underpaid relative to the contracting workforce.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    False. The contract may be worth something close to that, but the company takes about half for admin, employee benefits and their fee.
    Yet the guy can walk away from that job, go globe-trotting in some high-price venues while he eludes our long-arms, and is still out there. Maybe time to stop speculating about such unsupported trivia. He had a serious plan, and it seems well-funded so far.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hawaii is OCONUS.
    Not for federal compensation calculations. Probably a cost of living bump, but that would not be that much.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I worked in a relevant field for almost 34 years. I retired in 2009 and am a contractor now. I have lived and worked in the environment you are discussing since 1976.
    Congrats.. Just cause you work in the field doesn't mean you know the game. They pay for knowledge and ability when you have it. There is very few people who can do the work this guy was required to do. So like I said $200k isn't out of the realm of possible.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yet the guy can walk away from that job, go globe-trotting in some high-price venues while he eludes our long-arms, and is still out there. Maybe time to stop speculating about such unsupported trivia. He had a serious plan, and it seems well-funded so far.
    Maybe. Maybe not.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Congrats.. Just cause you work in the field doesn't mean you know the game. They pay for knowledge and ability when you have it. There is very few people who can do the work this guy was required to do. So like I said $200k isn't out of the realm of possible.
    His skill set is not uncommon. Basically a system administrator.
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