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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    I reserve the right to change my opinion, but so far I see the man as a hero. His reasoning is articulate and solid, and I approve.
    Last edited by radcen; 06-09-13 at 08:34 PM.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Illegal and top-secret go hand in hand.
    Exactly. That is the wonderful thing about it, really. They just want to keep something secret that they are doing that they know is wrong and all of sudden it's top secret.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How is the US gov collecting cell phone information and tapping phones and spying on internet usage without a warrant not unconstitutional? I would always think that if the government was spying on its own citizens i wouldnt imagine a day when the information was finally revealed to the open and finally the media would pay attention to it that some citizens would be sitting back and saying "oh who decides what the gov is doing is illegal"? Whatever happened to transparency?
    Transparency? What is that? No such thing ever existed. I agree with everything you said though.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    It's a weird country we live in. Revealing confidential information regarding national security to another spy is called espionage and considered treasonous.

    Release the same material to the media, for all the world to see, is simply called whistleblowing?

    And the media gets a free pass for divulging the classified intel because of the freedom of the press.

    What a country!

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Illegal is the key word. We can't let people hide behind the term whistle-blower when they are revealing top secret information. So who decides if it's illegal? Some grunt sitting at a keyboard who's been sworn to secrecy? He'd better damned well be right or he goes to jail.
    He goes to jail anyway. Revealing national secrets to the public is treason, regardless of his beliefs. He'll be lucky if he gets anything under 25-30 years in prison. Both he and Manning should be executed to make an example for others to think about before they develop delusions of heroism.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    The guy just shared some top secret information cause he disagreed with it. Not sure that's heroic. If anything, it's bad.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    He goes to jail anyway. Revealing national secrets to the public is treason, regardless of his beliefs. He'll be lucky if he gets anything under 25-30 years in prison.
    Let us hope.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Let us hope.
    i think there is a report stating that the whistle blower is in hong kong.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    The guy just shared some top secret information cause he disagreed with it. Not sure that's heroic. If anything, it's bad.
    Yeah, that is what people usually do. Why does that matter, exactly?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, that is what people usually do. Why does that matter, exactly?
    If it doesn't matter, why would he be a hero. Is doing what people normally do heroic?
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