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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    After taxes probably not. But as a SIGINTer in Hawaii that's not implausible.
    It's quite implausible. I suspect his gross before taxes was $100K/year, tops.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    It's quite implausible. I suspect his gross before taxes was $100K/year, tops.
    .... I'm not a SIGINTer by trade, but from the folks I know in the business, I would find that less likely than $200K.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    It's quite implausible. I suspect his gross before taxes was $100K/year, tops.
    Nah..working in SIGINT as a civilian contractor you can easily make that.. Specially for NSA.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    .... I'm not a SIGINTer by trade, but from the folks I know in the business, I would find that less likely than $200K.
    Only the special pay scales for senior scientists. Average salary is about $85K/year.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    An excerpt from the DNI's public statement today:
    "As our nation faces the most diverse set of threats I've seen in my 50 years in intelligence, the unauthorized disclosure of two important surveillance programs has inflicted potentially long-lasting and irreversible harm to our ability to identify and respond to those threats. As news coverage of these unauthorized disclosures continues, we need to press on with our mission and not let these disclosures distract us from our intelligence efforts.

    "The articles published in conjunction with these leaks contain numerous inaccuracies, both in describing the purpose of our efforts and in the way they characterize the work that we do. They omit key information regarding how these classified intelligence collection programs are used to prevent terrorist attacks and the numerous safeguards Congress, the FISA Court and the Intelligence Community have put in place to protect privacy and civil liberties."

    Of course they would say this! Would you expect anything else from the government?
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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    That remains (I think) to be fully seen. But I will agree there is a qualitative difference between him and (for example) Manning.
    Agreed. He's gonna be a rock-star for quite some time though. If he wasn't making $200K per before, he'll get that, and a lot more, as all this unfolds. He absolutely has friends in high places now.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Nah..working in SIGINT as a civilian contractor you can easily make that.. Specially for NSA.
    False. The contract may be worth something close to that, but the company takes about half for admin, employee benefits and their fee.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Only the special pay scales for senior scientists. Average salary is about $85K/year.
    Problem is you are assuming that's how it works. NSA and CIA contractors don't work that way. If you have a skill they need they will pay you above and beyond for your service and secrecy. So $200k fits the bill for living in Hawaii.. in DC area it's about $150k.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Problem is you are assuming that's how it works. NSA and CIA contractors don't work that way. If you have a skill they need they will pay you above and beyond for your service and secrecy. So $200k fits the bill for living in Hawaii.. in DC area it's about $150k.
    I worked in a relevant field for almost 34 years. I retired in 2009 and am a contractor now. I have lived and worked in the environment you are discussing since 1976.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is correct. We also don't know if the Government has been in contact with Aliens, or is actually running a Jason-Bourne esque super-Assassin program utilizing mind-altering drugs and enhanced interrogation methods. But what I am pointing out is that there is a difference between a program and an abuse of a program.
    Well, at least when it comes to mind-altering drugs, it has in the past. Look up Project MKULTRA.

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