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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    I hope some one can explain this to me
    Obama made a speech claiming that all of congress was informed on the NSA information gathering
    If that is true how is it that what Snowden did was a leak? you cant leak information that has supposedly had been already made public. Can you?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I hope some one can explain this to me
    Obama made a speech claiming that all of congress was informed on the NSA information gathering
    If that is true how is it that what Snowden did was a leak? you cant leak information that has supposedly had been already made public. Can you?
    Well remember that members of Congress have security clearances, and a need to know.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "The articles published in conjunction with these leaks contain numerous inaccuracies, both in describing the purpose of our efforts and in the way they characterize the work that we do."
    So they say.
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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I hope some one can explain this to me
    Obama made a speech claiming that all of congress was informed on the NSA information gathering
    If that is true how is it that what Snowden did was a leak? you cant leak information that has supposedly had been already made public. Can you?
    If I said Obama lied would that be too obvious ?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    B) however, it does validate the model of using programming to scan for indicators such as communications with known terrorists to cue actual analyst collection and processing of specific data.
    Everyone expects that communications with known terrorists are monitored and tracked and they don't object to it because there is good reason to suspect that someone communicating with a known terrorist is likely to be involved in criminal activity. Information that is readily accessible to anyone with an internet connection is not private so it is not an issue if the government monitors it.

    By contrast, telephone calls and e-mail messages by people who are not under specific suspicion are reasonably expected to be private. If there is no reasonable suspicion about an individual or specific group of individuals then the government is specifically prohibited from violating their privacy.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    If I said Obama lied would that be too obvious ?
    Everyone lies. Politicians, citizens, police, judges, doctors. If you are human and you are breathing, you've told lies. Including when it comes to critical things.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Everyone expects that communications with known terrorists are monitored and tracked and they don't object to it because there is good reason to suspect that someone communicating with a known terrorist is likely to be involved in criminal activity. Information that is readily accessible to anyone with an internet connection is not private so it is not an issue if the government monitors it.

    By contrast, telephone calls and e-mail messages by people who are not under specific suspicion are reasonably expected to be private. If there is no reasonable suspicion about an individual or specific group of individuals then the government is specifically prohibited from violating their privacy.
    You'd've thought, huh.

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Everyone lies. Politicians, citizens, police, judges, doctors. If you are human and you are breathing, you've told lies. Including when it comes to critical things.

    That's not intended as a WhiteWashParagon.jpg of our President, his NSA head, his IRS head, and various other Administration officials, is it?

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    Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well remember that members of Congress have security clearances, and a need to know.


    you are wrong majority of congress do not go through or take an oath of security only the ones in select committees do

    Do Members of Congress Have Security Clearances? - GovLoop - Knowledge Network for Government

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