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Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181, 607]

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Well if you want to get into a debate on god we would open another long set of issues including schizophrenia. So i guess it would be best to set on topic here. Yes it is gender bias or ignorance of the transgender world and entire sexual displacement area. I am not saying your bias is a bad thing for you. It is in fact the nonsense we have been taught since childhood. Girls do not all like pick and sometimes boys would rather play with dolls then play football. Gender and sexuality are a huge field and involve so much beyond what is seen. The physical is simply one aspect of our gender and sexuality. This is though the only portion we are asked to consider. oh and in the texts attributed to god there is no mention of transgender at all. Nor is there any mention of high rises or race cars so it seems like those texts missed a lot about the future world.

So a guy "thinks" he is a girl, we let him use the girls room?
 
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Men and women have breasts. Men don't have vaginas and women don't have penises.



I see you're ascribing humanistic properties to a supernatural deity. How do you know "god" is a he?

Because He said He is, and we have seen Him on this earth, ever heard of Jesus?
 
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I always think of Dan Bunten when I see sex change stuff, scares me.

A WARNING FOR THOSE CONSIDERING MtF SEX REASSIGNMENT SURGERY (SRS)
I agree there can be problems and people can do this for all the wrong reasons. This is certainly not an exact science. Usually it is correct. If we stopped the practice we would be denying those who have sexual dysphoria because mistakes happen. Well we would have to stop all surgery as mistakes happen there as well. We would have to stop medicine altogether because mistakes happen. Yes there are problems at times but there are more problems in all other facets of medicine.
 
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Because He said He is, and we have seen Him on this earth, ever heard of Jesus?

He said he is where? Are you sure we didn't say "he" is? Also, how about you address the other half of that.
 
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So a guy "thinks" he is a girl, we let him use the girls room?
You adjust the body to fit the mind to create a harmony. You are wrong and there are no ifs and or buts about it. Both science and the legal system find your judgment to be wrong. So what i am saying i guess as a minor study or look at the science and the legal would be of benefit to you. Thanks
 
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You adjust the body to fit the mind to create a harmony. You are wrong and there are no ifs and or buts about it. Both science and the legal system find your judgment to be wrong. So what i am saying i guess as a minor study or look at the science and the legal would be of benefit to you. Thanks

Legal and truth are not synonymous, nor is "science" otherwise Evolution wouldn't be taught as fact.
 
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Legal and truth are not synonymous, nor is "science" otherwise Evolution wouldn't be taught as fact.

Oh boy - here we go. Evolution isn't taught as a fact, it's taught as a theory - which it is.
 
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Oh boy - here we go. Evolution isn't taught as a fact, it's taught as a theory - which it is.

Then why is creation not also taught as a theory, which it is? And I can assure you it is taught as fact in public schools, they say any other way is not credible, no basis.
 
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Then why is creation not also taught as a theory, which it is? And I can assure you it is taught as fact in public schools, they say any other way is not credible, no basis.

Creation is not a theory, it's a hypothesis, and a shoddy one at that. And "they" (who is they?) would be correct as evolution is all there's really evidence for.
 
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Legal and truth are not synonymous, nor is "science" otherwise Evolution wouldn't be taught as fact.
It all depends on where you get your definition of truth. The truth is there are a percentage of people who are transgender and if they can be medically fixed we should do this. There are people who have cancer and if it can be medically fixed we should fix them as well. Truth fits both of these issues yet you may want to help one and not the other because of bias and certain beliefs.
 
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Creation is not a theory, it's a hypothesis, and a shoddy one at that. And "they" (who is they?) would be correct as evolution is all there's really evidence for.

That would be your incorrect opinion.
 
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It all depends on where you get your definition of truth. The truth is there are a percentage of people who are transgender and if they can be medically fixed we should do this. There are people who have cancer and if it can be medically fixed we should fix them as well. Truth fits both of these issues yet you may want to help one and not the other because of bias and certain beliefs.

If they have both parts then yes, they should be fixed to one, however, we are talking about people making a choice of their preference, not reality.
 
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That would be your incorrect opinion.

That's not an opinion, that's empirically-based data. If you have evidence to refute Evolutionary Theory, you can get a Nobel Prize, the monetary stipend, and go down in history.
 
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So a guy "thinks" he is a girl, we let him use the girls room?
You adjust the body to fit the mind to create a harmony. You are wrong and there are no ifs and or buts about it. Both science and the legal system find your judgment to be wrong. So what i am saying i guess as a minor study or look at the science and the legal would be of benefit to you. Thanks
At least with respect to the issue regarding use of public restrooms, it's certainly not my impression that the legal issues are settled and that "the legal system" regards gender as that which a person identifies with rather than that with which a person is born with.

In fact, so varied are the laws in different cities and states, that transgendered individuals almost need a Fodor's guide to inform them of the local customs.
 
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That's not an opinion, that's empirically-based data. If you have evidence to refute Evolutionary Theory, you can get a Nobel Prize, the monetary stipend, and go down in history.

The evidence already went down in history, the Creator told us what happened.
 
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If they have both parts then yes, they should be fixed to one, however, we are talking about people making a choice of their preference, not reality.
No we are not. To have a reassignment you must be in therapy and have a doctors agreement to even get the process started with hormone blockers. The person is on these for a time before any futher advancement is made. You must live within the new gender role for a full year before any final determination is done. This is not done off the cuff. There are any number of steps which need to be made before switching genders. The process for many can take as long as five years. SRS is not a matter of walking ion and saying oh yeah doc i would love to be a man or a woman and having them hope right too it. So yes for the most part i would say 99% of the time both parts would match in the end. There have been times as well as after the SRS happened the person began to feel a mistake was made. This may happen. Rare just like surgical errors which kill a person during any procedure. This is why before any surgery you have to sign a wavier and consent form.
 
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At least with respect to the issue regarding use of public restrooms, it's certainly not my impression that the legal issues are settled and that "the legal system" regards gender as that which a person identifies with rather than that with which a person is born with.

In fact, so varied are the laws in different cities and states, that transgendered individuals almost need a Fodor's guide to inform them of the local customs.


The only state in the union where a transgender can not get married as the gender they become as long as the birth certificate is amended is Texas otherwise transgenders are fully accepted across the entire nation. There would be no need for a Fodor's as long as they are not in Texas.
 
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No we are not. To have a reassignment you must be in therapy and have a doctors agreement to even get the process started with hormone blockers. The person is on these for a time before any futher advancement is made. You must live within the new gender role for a full year before any final determination is done. This is not done off the cuff. There are any number of steps which need to be made before switching genders. The process for many can take as long as five years. SRS is not a matter of walking ion and saying oh yeah doc i would love to be a man or a woman and having them hope right too it. So yes for the most part i would say 99% of the time both parts would match in the end. There have been times as well as after the SRS happened the person began to feel a mistake was made. This may happen. Rare just like surgical errors which kill a person during any procedure. This is why before any surgery you have to sign a wavier and consent form.

So you agree it is switching, which means you were in fact one before. So it's not natural.
 
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Fine, label me with Gender bias, I guess God is gender biased too since he created the guy male.

If you are going to bring God into the mix, why don't you remember that God loves everybody, and He doesn't hate anyone, no matter who they are.
 
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So you agree it is switching, which means you were in fact one before. So it's not natural.
A person is correcting the difference in body and mind and so genitals and breasts are altered to create the match. No it is not switching as you are stating and you know this is not what i have been saying. I have at least attempted to explain the process you have offered nothing beyond your personal bias to the debate. Personal bias is not a reason. So far you have not offered one comment as to why you have made the statements you have. Because i misused the word switching to a person who is gender biased i am not changing my debate. What proofs do you offer to support your claim that you are correct. So far no where. Offer some evidence you are correct in what you are saying.
 
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If you are going to bring God into the mix, why don't you remember that God loves everybody, and He doesn't hate anyone, no matter who they are.

He hates sin. This has nothing to do with loving a person, we are talking about an action and a lifestyle.
 
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Because He said He is, and we have seen Him on this earth, ever heard of Jesus?

This is confusing - God and Jesus are not one and the same. God is the Father, Jesus is the Son. I'm not arguing that God is a man, but I would argue that you have seen Him. You might have seen Jesus, but no one can look upon the face of God and live. Even Moses, the person God was closest too, never looked upon his face. It's why He came to him in a burning bush.
 
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This is confusing - God and Jesus are not one and the same. God is the Father, Jesus is the Son. I'm not arguing that God is a man, but I would argue that you have seen Him. You might have seen Jesus, but no one can look upon the face of God and live. Even Moses, the person God was closest too, never looked upon his face. It's why He came to him in a burning bush.

Jesus said I and the Father are one. They actually are one in the same.
 
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Jesus said I and the Father are one. They actually are one in the same.

I disagree. :lol: Sorry, had to do that. How can that be true, if the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit make up the Holy Trinity? I've been raised in church my entire life, in more than one denomination, and I've never heard it said that God and Jesus are one and the same.

However, different religions interpret things differently. :shrug:
 
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