Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]
I agree. When it comes to sex, it would be inaccurate to focus only on external genitalia just as it would be inaccurate to focus only on DNA. This is why I advocate acknowledging the totality of sex which includes genitalia, DNA and variety of other characteristics.
So, given the fact that their DNA is still identical to their birth sex and their genitals are not genuine do you still believe that a transgendered person has truly changed their sex?
This is inaccurate. The following are links to the sites of two doctors who perform SRS and they say that they create a vagina, labia, clitoris, et al. through surgery not "imitations" of those body parts. The problem is that you are defining genitalia in terms of their origins when genitalia are actually defined in terms of their structure regardless of their origins.
Papillon Center - Dr. McGinn SRS, HRT, and Electrolysis
Male to Female Gender Reassignment Surgery
Other sources use the same language. Unless you have a source to demonstrate that these doctors who, unlike you, perform SRS are incorrect, then your argument holds no water.
See above.
Are you seriously arguing using the wording of a few surgeons that are
advertising their transgender surgery services as if this is an absolute definition? They can claim all that, or "say that they" create a vagina, labia, clitoris and all those other things but that doesn't change the fact that what they are doing is altering current organs to
appear like different ones. They do not have the function of a natural vagina, they are a modified penis that simply looks like one. What they are are creating imitations. I could go into more graphic detail but I'll spare the forum that. The transsexual vagina is an imitation vagina typically created from the penis, scrotum, and possibly other tissues from the body grafted in. Look this up for me, does the transsexual vagina keep a pH relative to a real vagina? What about the Bulbourethral gland/Bartholin's gland? How about prostatic fluid/vaginal fluid? It may look like a vagina, but it doesn't function as one and is lacking anatomical features you may not see.
Also, the fact that I am not an SRS performing surgeon doesn't negate any of what I've argued.
Let's establish a few things: You say you look at defining sex with a more "whole" picture by looking at DNA and genitals/anatomy. It has been shown that a transsexual's DNA remains unchanged from their birth DNA. Their genitals are formed from their birth genitals and lack the normal reproductive functions of natural genitals for their desired sex. What they have is an imitation created by surgical means to appear aesthetically like a vagina or penis. These imitation organs lack the proper physiological functions of natural, real sexual organs created through development as instructed by the person's DNA.
If you took a DNA sample from a transsexual the results will say that they are their birth sex. If you look at reproductive function you would find that they have no reproduction function, that was removed/destroyed when their imitative reproductive organs were created.
You are ignoring genetics and placing your definition on aesthetics and the advertisements of a few surgeons that are advertising their surgical services. Biologically their sex has not been changed. You can argue that the
ethics of their gender has been changed, but their sex remains the same.