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Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181, 607]

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NO one said anything about hating. He or she should have never had children to begin with then. Just a covering up his OWN lies and using children and a family to do so. If he lived a lie, then he has no one but himself to blame.

I don't think it necessarily has to be a lie, in the sense they're trying to deceive someone else. Sometimes it takes someone time to except the truth about themselves or even recognize what that truth is. I've seen this for myself.
 
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It does matter-but you can stop taking that stuff and you revert to total Man

And that does not matter, and not really true. Breasts just don't go away.
 
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Can this Navy Seal be our own Navy Pride!?

Navy Pride is better than that.
 
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I don't think it necessarily has to be a lie. Sometimes it takes someone some time to except the truth about themselves. I've seen this for myself.

Okay, that's fine. But the sympathy doesn't all go to him. He isn't the only one who suffers, and HE is the cause of other's suffering, whether purposefully or not, AND since he already had children, he could at least wait until they are grown and deal with it like an adult until they are old enough to understand. I mean really, a lot of adults don't even understand this kind of thing.
 
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So living a lie, and being miserable is okay? How is that good for your children?

I just don't understand how people can be so hateful towards people who are just trying to live their lives and be happy. Makes me lose faith in humanity.

I actually agree with most of this. If the person in question wants to live like a woman, that is fine with me. I am not going to damn them-as I have noted in the past, one of my closest friends in HS (never saw that coming) changed his name had total reassignment surgery. I am still this person's friend. doesn't bother me a bit. But I get tired of the PC crap that the left throws around. at what point in your mind does the person become a she?
 
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Navy Pride is better than that.

No he is not.

Besides, I read it in an email, which makes it Gospel.
 
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And that does not matter, and not really true. Breasts just don't go away.

nor do penises
 
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Okay, that's fine. But the sympathy doesn't all go to him. He isn't the only one who suffers, and HE is the cause of other's suffering, whether purposefully or not, AND since he already had children, he could at least wait until they are grown and deal with it like an adult until they are old enough to understand. I mean really, a lot of adults don't even understand this kind of thing.

You are assuming that her children will suffer because of this, which couldn't be further from the truth. Kids understand some things way better than adults it seems, and I'm sure they will have little problem accepting her as mom.

This is what bigotry looks like, and it's ugly.
 
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I actually agree with most of this. If the person in question wants to live like a woman, that is fine with me. I am not going to damn them-as I have noted in the past, one of my closest friends in HS (never saw that coming) changed his name had total reassignment surgery. I am still this person's friend. doesn't bother me a bit. But I get tired of the PC crap that the left throws around. at what point in your mind does the person become a she?

They were always a she, gender is in the mind, not the body. All they are doing is changing their body to match who they really are, it's that simple. You may not accept that, but that doesn't change the facts of the matter.
 
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So living a lie, and being miserable is okay? How is that good for your children?

I just don't understand how people can be so hateful towards people who are just trying to live their lives and be happy. Makes me lose faith in humanity.

No, living a lie isn't necessarily good for children. It's also not necessarily bad. Parents make heroic sacrifices for their kids every day.

There is no pretending that someone who is married and a father or mother who undergoes sexual reassignment is going to wreak havoc in the lives of his or her family. That's a fact, a painful one.

And it's why I have such tremendous empathy for those who believe they are trapped in the wrong body. As I've said, I cannot imagine the conflict and the suffering. I am absolutely willing to accept any person I meet at face-value. But let's not pretend that marriages and families and friendships aren't destroyed by this momentous decision.
 
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They were always a she, gender is in the mind, not the body. All they are doing is changing their body to match who they really are, it's that simple. You may not accept that, but that doesn't change the facts of the matter.

No its your opinion. nothing more nothing less.
 
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Haha, a thread about Navy Pride.
 
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You are assuming that her children will suffer because of this, which couldn't be further from the truth. Kids understand some things way better than adults it seems, and I'm sure they will have little problem accepting her as mom.

This is what bigotry looks like, and it's ugly.

SHE wasn't thinking about her children at ALL IMO. Just about herself and what would make her happy.
 
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Let me clarify what TPD is saying. If one looks at one's DNA, one would see an XY or an XX chromosome. That is unchangeable. However, DNA is not the only things that constitutes sex and gender, so your question is attempting to overly simplify a complicated issue... and not succeeding.

This is your assessment, but I reject it.
 
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No, living a lie isn't necessarily good for children. It's also not necessarily bad. Parents make heroic sacrifices for their kids every day.

There is no pretending that someone who is married and a father or mother who undergoes sexual reassignment is going to wreak havoc in the lives of his or her family. That's a fact, a painful one.

And it's why I have such tremendous empathy for those who believe they are trapped in the wrong body. As I've said, I cannot imagine the conflict and the suffering. I am absolutely willing to accept any person I meet at face-value. But let's not pretend that marriages and families and friendships aren't destroyed by this momentous decision.

Friendships and families can also be destroyed by someone coming out as gay, should they do the "heroic" thing and stay in the closet? You have to live for yourself, if your loved ones can't deal that is their problem.

And assuming that doing this will cause havoc on the family is simply not true, their are many trans parents who have great relationships with their kids, and former spouses. Hell some spouses even stay with them.

For example, Laura Jane Grace, lead singer of the band Against Me! came out as trans, and is transitioning, has a kid, and a wife, and the family grew because of it. Her, and her wife are still together, and raising their little girl together. So assuming that someone doing this is this horrible thing is just wrong.
 
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No its your opinion. nothing more nothing less.

No, it's the science, you clearly are ignorant.
 
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No, this is not accurate. I will pose the same question to you. You seem quite uneducated on this topic. If you'd like, I can post information so you will be better informed. However, if you have decided to stick with your uninformed opinion regardless of the information posted, I will not waste my time.

God made him a man and that's what he is. Just like those here who "claim" to be homosexuals or lesbians, they can say what they want, but they are wrong to engage in same-sex relationships.
 
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No, it's the science, you clearly are ignorant.

more horsecrap. its an opinion of yours. The individual in question is of male sexuality. That means it is accurate to call him a he. what scientific study says its how he feels that should determine how he is classified?
 
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My friend Ricki from when I was younger was very in your face about her appearance. I think my first words to her most times I saw her where a variation on "yes, the hormones are working great, they do look bigger than yesterday and they are still very nice. Now can you put your shirt back on?"

I understand. I keep having to tell Spud to put his pants back on and that has nothing to do with transgender issues.
 
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God made him a man and that's what he is. Just like those here who "claim" to be homosexuals or lesbians, they can say what they want, but they are wrong to engage in same-sex relationships.

uh why are they wrong to engage in same sex relationships?
 
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No, it's the science, you clearly are ignorant.

Turtle is right and you're delusional as heck. I love how the best you and captain have is the little "you're ignorant". Keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.
 
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Yeah, you did. Calling her, a he is pretty damned hateful. The same as calling a black person a nigger, or calling me a dyke as far as I'm concerned.

If the shoe fits...
 
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I understand. I keep having to tell Spud to put his pants back on and that has nothing to do with transgender issues.

I will have to tell you about the time I went to see Ricki at work. She worked at a bar featuring TS dancers, plus one pre and one post op TV. I have never in my life been so uncomfortable as they got carried away good naturally trying to embarrass me.
 
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If this were my father, I would rather him have been killed in action rather than return and disgrace us this way.
 
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If this were my father, I would rather him have been killed in action rather than return and disgrace us this way.

Well that's rather harsh. Can't say I agree with that sentiment. I would rather have my father but I would sure be confused and have a difficult time understanding, and I would probably kind of dread going to school, or having him pick me up at school. As an adult, I could deal with those things much better.
 
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