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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Some people seem not to understand that there are differences in brain chemistry that make us "feel" what we feel and that we cannot control. I cannot control the fact that I am a heterosexual female; fortunately for me, my brain and body are in agreement. Homosexuals cannot change the fact that they are homosexual; they love who they love, and are attracted to their own gender. They were born that way.

    Now we look toward transgender people. Let's try to envision what it's like for them. Imagine yourself looking in the mirror, and having the body of the opposite sex staring back at you. If I saw the face and body of a man in my reflection, it would drive me insane because I KNOW that I'm a woman. My brain has told me so, and this male body feels like it must belong to someone else.

    THAT is what I suspect it feels like when brain chemistry does not match physical gender. And I can totally understand doing anything humanly possible to create a body that my brain recognizes as the real me.

    I don't understand why this is so difficult for some people to accept.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

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    One need never have seen a mountain to know that it is not called a valley.
    This is one of those comments that sounds thoughtful on the surface, but isn't at all in reality.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

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    You do understand that this issue is a bit more complicated than this, right?
    He has given no indication he does. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt?
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Some people seem not to understand that there are differences in brain chemistry that make us "feel" what we feel and that we cannot control. I cannot control the fact that I am a heterosexual female; fortunately for me, my brain and body are in agreement. Homosexuals cannot change the fact that they are homosexual; they love who they love, and are attracted to their own gender. They were born that way.

    Now we look toward transgender people. Let's try to envision what it's like for them. Imagine yourself looking in the mirror, and having the body of the opposite sex staring back at you. If I saw the face and body of a man in my reflection, it would drive me insane because I KNOW that I'm a woman. My brain has told me so, and this male body feels like it must belong to someone else.

    THAT is what I suspect it feels like when brain chemistry does not match physical gender. And I can totally understand doing anything humanly possible to create a body that my brain recognizes as the real me.

    I don't understand why this is so difficult for some people to accept.
    Without all the scientific information, this is an excellent and accurate description. Great post.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Without all the scientific information, this is an excellent and accurate description. Great post.

    An obvious one to boot.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

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    He has given no indication he does. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt?
    Sure. Chuck has shown some insightfulness on a variety of issues in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You do understand that this issue is a bit more complicated than this, right?
    The genesis of the desire to have a gender that is opposite birth sex is complicated, yes. Let me be clear; I do not advocate discrimination of transgendered people, and I believe they must be treated with utmost respect. But I don't think I should be obligated to call them something they aren't, and I resist all attempts to insult and shame me into doing otherwise.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    An obvious one to boot.
    You still here? OK... so give us your assessment of DiAnna's post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    But I don't think I should be obligated to call them something they aren't, and I resist all attempts to insult and shame me into doing otherwise.
    It's not a matter of obligation so much as it is a matter of knowledge. To insist that transgender people are not the gender that they identify as is to insist that one wants to remain uninformed. Nobody is obligated to get educated. However, I can't imagine why one would not want to do just that.

    EDIT: It's also a matter of respect and politeness. Nobody is obligated to be respectful or polite either. However, I also cannot imagine why anyone would want to not be either one of those things to be who have done nothing to harm you.
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