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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Oh, so you have read the information. That means that instead of being uninformed, you deny reality. Sorry. My mistake.
    Haha..why didn't you provide it? Don't worry, I will only laugh a little.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Haha..why didn't you provide it? Don't worry, I will only laugh a little.
    There are several. Which would you like to see? The one that discusses the MRI scans of the brains of post-mortum folks who are heterosexual, homosexual, and transgendered, or one of the several that discusses BSTc and the affects of pre-natal hormonal surge?
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There are several. Which would you like to see? The one that discusses the MRI scans of the brains of post-mortum folks who are heterosexual, homosexual, and transgendered, or one of the several that discusses BSTc and the affects of pre-natal hormonal surge?
    Whatever dude, I don't care.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Nope, he was a man before and he will be a man when he finishes it all up. Nothing will change. The shear denial in on this topic is really bizarre. I'm out.
    You are right in that DNA doesn't change and, unless there's something else going on...some rare genital abnormality that mimics the wrong gender...DNA tells the truth. Male or female. It never changes no matter how much hormone therapy has.

    It's unfortunate that some of us can't understand that some people just get hardwired differently and can't do a damned thing about it. *shrug*
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    "it"?

    Aren't you arguing that she is still a he? Why say "it", why not "he"?

    Personally I refer to a transgender person by whichever pronoun he or she prefers to use.
    Because I think saying "it" is more polite than if the mathematician in me went with being precise. Mathematicians are good with both precision or abstraction. Again, in this case, I think the latter is better.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    He's a he. He was born a he and will die a he. No surgery is going to alter his birth or change his genetic code to redefine his biological sex as female. We can get into the ethical thing regarding gender roles and what defines a male and female, but biologically he will remain male forever, there is no changing that.
    1. You're conflating sex and gender. By reducing the conversation to sex through limiting the perception of gender to biology, you miss the point. Gender and the way that transgender people refer to themselves moves beyond mere biology.

    2. It is inaccurate to say that a male-to-female transgender person "biologically remains male forever." On the contrary, when they begin the process of a sex change and certainly when they complete the process, they have partially - if not mostly, altered their sex. This is true because sex refers not only to unchangeable chromosomes, it also refers to "structural" differences in genitalia, hormones and host of other physical features. Therefore, when a man undergoes a sex change to become a woman, many of the parts of his body that determine his sex become female which means that biologically he does, in great part, become a woman.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Whatever dude, I don't care.
    Of course you don't. See Henrin, I have no reason to post the information in a debate with you. You have offered up NOTHING that says anything of substance regarding transsexuality (other than from a genetic/DNA standpoint, an individual does not alter their sex, which is correct), AND you have already implied that regardless of what information is posted, you have no intention of hearing it. You will continue to believe that issues such as this are not complex in any way and remain in denial. That's fine. Let me know if you change your mind and actually want to discuss it.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Because I think saying "it" is more polite than if the mathematician in me went with being precise. Mathematicians are good with both precision or abstraction. Again, in this case, I think the latter is better.
    You were doing fine right up to the last line. If you want to be polite to someone else, your opinion on what is polite is irrelevant... demonstrated by the fact that if you called a transgendered person "it" you wouldn't be polite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Of course you don't. See Henrin, I have no reason to post the information in a debate with you. You have offered up NOTHING that says anything of substance regarding transsexuality (other than from a genetic/DNA standpoint, an individual does not alter their sex, which is correct), AND you have already implied that regardless of what information is posted, you have no intention of hearing it. You will continue to believe that issues such as this are not complex in any way and remain in denial. That's fine. Let me know if you change your mind and actually want to discuss it.
    That is kind of like saying you admit your point has no bearing on mine and yet somehow you still win. whatever.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You really have to stop thinking you actually provide something new to discussions, you don't.
    Thanks for that. I love irony.
    You've said the same thing so many times in this thread I'm starting to picture you stamping your feet and waving your arms.

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