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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    I am taking the issues head on.

    You dont like it and bully gays tgirls etc. I cant change your values or lack there of. If you want to make people miserable I cant stop you. I just point out you are a shrinking minority.
    You still haven't acknowledged my point that it does in fact affect others.
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We are winning the war of ideas. You are losing the war of ideas.
    You can be a bully and teach your kids to bully. Your on the losing side so I understand your miffed.
    The game never ends, how is someone winnings or losing in the never ending cycle? There is and should be constant human struggle of change vs tradition, it's part of the fabric of most dynamics systems for good reason. In this way new ideas that make it through the gauntlet win, and they are constantly being challenged by traditionalist/status quo, who also wins in every case he new idea loses. Purely winners/losers is way too simplified a way to look at this.

    A new idea can destroy a nation, a software program, an experiment, a business, just as quickly as rejecting all change. Also, the more you have, the more likely you are to want to preserve what you have, and the less you have to gamble with changes. Age alone dictates that the youth will gamble on change every time, they have nearly nothing to lose, and nearly everything to gain. Older people nearing retirement with a huge nest egg and life investment, they want to see it through to their pot of gold at the end of that long rainbow, they have everything to lose, and very little to gain from change.

    Same goes for competition, the new competitor has nearly nothing to lose, they will innovate like no other. The big market players in the industry today, they only want change they can control.

    We can go on with lists like this of very practical real life descriptions of how things work in practice.
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You still haven't acknowledged my point that it does in fact affect others.
    No it doesn't. Just the person and their family.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    The game never ends, how is someone winnings or losing in the never ending cycle? There is and should be constant human struggle of change vs tradition, it's part of the fabric of most dynamics systems for good reason. In this way new ideas that make it through the gauntlet win, and they are constantly being challenged by traditionalist/status quo, who also wins in every case he new idea loses. Purely winners/losers is way too simplified a way to look at this.

    A new idea can destroy a nation, a software program, an experiment, a business, just as quickly as rejecting all change. Also, the more you have, the more likely you are to want to preserve what you have, and the less you have to gamble with changes. Age alone dictates that the youth will gamble on change every time, they have nearly nothing to lose, and nearly everything to gain. Older people nearing retirement with a huge nest egg and life investment, they want to see it through to their pot of gold at the end of that long rainbow, they have everything to lose, and very little to gain from change.

    Same goes for competition, the new competitor has nearly nothing to lose, they will innovate like no other. The big market players in the industry today, they only want change they can control.

    We can go on with lists like this of very practical real life descriptions of how things work in practice.
    The path of greater acceptance and equality for LGBT is clear and advancing fast.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    And Webster defines it as Sex Male or Female, so where do we stand now?
    Wanna give that another shot? Merriam-Webster defines it as:

    1 gen·der noun \ˈjen-dər\

    Definition of GENDER

    1
    a : a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms

    b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass

    c : an inflectional form showing membership in such a subclass

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    a : sex <the feminine gender>
    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You still haven't acknowledged my point that it does in fact affect others.
    People are responsible for their own irrational, emotional reactions. It is not the fault of a person doing what is considered best for them.
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People are responsible for their own irrational, emotional reactions. It is not the fault of a person doing what is considered best for them.
    Exactly, the argument lacks all logic, and is just an excuse for people to be against something they do not understand.
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    I was wondering, what restroom is this person supposed to use. If it thinks of its self as a female, wouldn't it just break it's little heart to be told it couldn't use the female facilities. And wouldn't it be alarming to see this goon coming into the men's room wearing a summer dress.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I was wondering, what restroom is this person supposed to use.
    A restroom corresponding to their gender identity without being harassed or questioned.

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