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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is this individual still on active duty?
    The warrior princess? I don't know. Wouldn't bother me if she was.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You said, "Altering the body to aesthetically appear like the other sex does not change their sex." This is inaccurate. It is inaccurate because a person's sex includes their genitalia and other physiological characteristics - not just their DNA. Therefore, when they alter their genitalia, hormones, et al. during the sex change process, they are altering certain aspects of their sex even while the DNA aspect of their sex remains unchangeable.
    When we castrate animals their underlying biological sex does not change. And though in human societies they might hold a different cultural distinction based on such changes their underlying sex would still be determined by genetics.

    What you are describing is gender

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Why not just tell me what you're saying?
    I tried that. Being a woman with male parts is likely genetic, thus biological. Your definition of male and female is incomplete and inadequate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, she is a she, period.
    Sylvester Stallone has long hair and penis, is he a she too?

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So... We grow sex organs in a lab and give them as transplants? Even if we could I highly doubt surgical medicine would advance to the point of being able to insert a completely foreign organ system into another person and have them be functional, especially giving a male a full female organ system.
    It would be grown from your stem cells.

    Also we transplant a heart or liver all the time. Hell we even to faces now. Dont forget the artificial heart.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    You cited characteristics derived from genetic sex, that we can alter, as serving as indicators of sex. I just pointed out such indicators serve a secondary purpose to genetic testing and are only used based on their dependency on genetic sex
    Which again, is a separate issue from whether or not sex is exclusively DNA. The latter is what I am and always have been concerned with.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So. One day soon we will be able to change our genes. To reprogram ourselves. Until then there are hormone s and surgery.
    If and when we reach that level, I will say one can change their sex from one to the other.
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I tried that. Being a woman with male parts is likely genetic, thus biological. Your definition of male and female is incomplete and inadequate.
    I don't recall defining male/female. I only pointed out that one is normally born as one or the other genetically. Now, if you would like to argue proclivities and their causes, we can go there as well...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    When we castrate animals their underlying biological sex does not change. And though in human societies they might hold a different cultural distinction based on such changes their underlying sex would still be determined by genetics.

    What you are describing is gender
    Since the start, my only argument has been that sex is more than just DNA.

    This is the definition of sex from the source that you provided:

    (1) The assemblage of characters or qualities of being a male or a female in animals and plants.
    (2) The genitals; the physical distinction between male and female.

    Sex - definition from Biology-Online.org
    According to that definition, is sex more than just DNA? Yes or no.

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    Re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I don't recall defining male/female. I only pointed out that one is normally born as one or the other genetically. Now, if you would like to argue proclivities and their causes, we can go there as well...
    And I pointed out that genetically is more than your genitals.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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