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Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181, 607]

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But that doesn't mean we should start treating them as a female because they are not. It's a fantasy, nothing more.

You can be as much of a mean jerk all you want. Call burn victims scabby or a girl with one leg Ilean. So you can be as much of a sociopathic bully as you want.
 
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You can be as much of a mean jerk all you want. Call burn victims scabby or a girl with one leg Ilean. So you can be as much of a sociopathic bully as you want.

The only one being a jerk is you, bullying me, you have yet to discuss the topic rather just bash my correct viewpoint and refuse to face the facts.
 
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The only one being a jerk is you, bullying me, you have yet to discuss the topic rather just bash my correct viewpoint and refuse to face the facts.

The facts are clear. You just repeat demeaning comments.

Cant change genetics yet. There are only hormones and surgery.

Everyone already knows that.

People change rhe gender they present. You like to mock those that do and have. Why is their pain and humiliation so much fun for you?
 
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The facts are clear. You just repeat demeaning comments.

Cant change genetics yet. There are only hormones and surgery.

Everyone already knows that.

People change rhe gender they present. You like to mock those that do and have. Why is their pain and humiliation so much fun for you?

You still aren't addressing the issue. They made bad choices and wonder why society doesn't accept the choices. It was something that was not meant to be messed with.
 
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You still aren't addressing the issue. They made bad choices and wonder why society doesn't accept the choices. It was something that was not meant to be messed with.

Bad choices? That's your opinion. You may feel that it gives you an excuse to bully and demean, but it doesn't.

That you like to judge and demean others regarding personal issues that dont affect you is the issue.
 
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Bad choices? That's your opinion. You may feel that it gives you an excuse to bully and demean, but it doesn't.

That you like to judge and demean others regarding personal issues that dont affect you is the issue.

It's not bullying, it's facts.

And it does affect everyone.
 
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It's not bullying, it's facts.

And it does affect everyone.

It is bullying, and someone changing gender does not harm you in any way.
 
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But that doesn't mean we should start treating them as a female because they are not.

This is based off of what?
 
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Based off you can't actually change someone's gender. Only appearance.

Gender can't be based off appearance? Probably should read this first.

In sociological terms 'gender role' refers to the characteristics and behaviours that different cultures attribute to the sexes.
 
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Who said harm? You said affect.

I said harm. I also said affect. How does it affect you and why do you think it gives you the right to bully and demean?
 
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I said harm. I also said affect. How does it affect you and why do you think it gives you the right to bully and demean?

Once again, stating the truth doesn't equal bullying or demeaning.

Now, say this "transgender" person decides because he now looks like a girl wants to go into the women's bathroom. You don't think that affects the other women in there that there is a man in the room?

If a transgender woman wants to go into the men's room, do you not think that affects them?
 
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And Webster defines it as Sex Male or Female, so where do we stand now?

Same place as always.

Some want to bully and demean others and to control them even though it doesnt harm or affect them.
 
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Same place as always.

Some want to bully and demean others and to control them even though it doesnt harm or affect them.

And again, you don't address the issue of my post and instead call me a bully. That's what we like to call a copout.
 
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And again, you don't address the issue of my post and instead call me a bully. That's what we like to call a copout.

What is the issue of your post? I only a litany of mean bullying posts.
 
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What is the issue of your post? I only a litany of mean bullying posts.

That yes, it does affect people. See my previous posts that you seem to ignore.

And that it is a fact that it does not change thier gender and they should not have their "new gender" recognized.
 
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That yes, it does affect people. See my previous posts that you seem to ignore.

And that it is a fact that it does not change thier gender and they should not have their "new gender" recognized.

It affects only the person and their family not you.

Of course they should have their new gender recognized. Your nature to bully people different than you is not shared by most people and our side is winning the war of ideas.
 
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Most of us realize that freedom is not absolute.

It's not, but the finite nature of reason is also not reason to give a **** if someone is transgendered or not. They are free to do as they like so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. Someone being transgendered infringes upon no one's rights, and thus isn't our business.
 
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It affects only the person and their family not you.

Of course they should have their new gender recognized. Your nature to bully people different than you is not shared by most people and our side is winning the war of ideas.

You clearly did not read my post about how it does in fact affect others.
 
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captainawesome said:
Of course they should have their new gender recognized. Your nature to bully people different than you is not shared by most people and our side is winning the war of ideas.

So by bullying the people opposed to you, you're winning the war on stopping bullies. Glad you're on the case!

I don't think that's true that it's not shared by most people. Most people feel that on some level regardless of you saying they don't. What's happening is we're changing our culture on certain differences like gay/tg, so that we don't perceive them as aberrant, but those emotions are still there for anyone who is an outsider. (which I think in this case is probably healthy, at the very least it's worth trying this way because the other way is known to be bad).

And while I support suppression of our animal instincts on this and many other issues, I'll ask you this. Why have humans evolved to have that trait in the first place? Clearly it's improved fitness in that it's widespread throughout really most any animals, even lower species on the evolutionary scale. Saying someone is a bad person because of their natural instincts/brain evolution is JUST AS ****ING BAD as calling someone who wants to be a different gender a bad person/outsider, etc.

Ridiculing Conservatives is a great American pass-time, it's got top ratings on comedy (Bill M., John S., Steven C.), but conservatism is part of the yin yang...adopting to much change too fast is just as dangerous as the old conservative boys club resisting any and all change.
 
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So by bullying the people opposed to you, you're winning the war on stopping bullies. Glad you're on the case!

I don't think that's true that it's not shared by most people. Most people feel that on some level regardless of you saying they don't. What's happening is we're changing our culture on certain differences like gay/tg, so that we don't perceive them as aberrant, but those emotions are still there for anyone who is an outsider. (which I think in this case is probably healthy, at the very least it's worth trying this way because the other way is known to be bad).

And while I support suppression of our animal instincts on this and many other issues, I'll ask you this. Why have humans evolved to have that trait in the first place? Clearly it's improved fitness in that it's widespread throughout really most any animals, even lower species on the evolutionary scale. Saying someone is a bad person because of their natural instincts/brain evolution is JUST AS ****ING BAD as calling someone who wants to be a different gender a bad person/outsider, etc.

Ridiculing Conservatives is a great American pass-time, it's got top ratings on comedy (Bill M., John S., Steven C.), but conservatism is part of the yin yang...adopting to much change too fast is just as dangerous as the old conservative boys club resisting any and all change.

We are winning the war of ideas. You are losing the war of ideas.

You can be a bully and teach your kids to bully. Your on the losing side so I understand your miffed.
 
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We are winning the war of ideas. You are losing the war of ideas.

You can be a bully and teach your kids to bully. Your on the losing side so I understand your miffed.

Still dodging the issues, the true bully is you.
 
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Still dodging the issues, the true bully is you.

I am taking the issues head on.

You dont like it and bully gays tgirls etc. I cant change your values or lack there of. If you want to make people miserable I cant stop you. I just point out you are a shrinking minority.
 
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