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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    He's a dude. Period. And all the guys on this thread being PC and pretending otherwise would be singing a different tune if they went on a date with this "chick" and reached down "her" pants and got a big surprise.
    What different tune do you think people would be singing?
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How many people do you do gene testing on? Which affects you and them more, the presence of a y chromosome, or how they look and act?
    Interesting question, Redress. I had to give it a little thought. I would definitely go off appearance and action and if I met the individual in the OP, I would say "she" and "her" and not to be polite or whatever, but because the visual clues would make it automatic.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, what's the explanation. IN laymen's terms please. Inquiring minds want to know what makes these people tick.
    Be happy to... but it will have to wait until later... I must leave work for home.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That would be unethical unless the individual chooses this direction. Also, research shows that doing so has been completely unsuccessful. Btw... Gender Identity Disorder (Transgenderism in psychological terminology) was just declassified as a disorder in the new DSM-V.



    Perhaps not beautiful, but from the standpoint of everything except for DNA, it does.
    Well you have to understand that it's a difficult thing for most of us to understand. What evidence did they use to declassify it as a psychiatric disorder?

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What different tune do you think people would be singing?
    You would be saying "I thought I went out with a girl but it was really a guy."

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You would be saying "I thought I went out with a girl but it was really a guy."
    No. I'd be saying "Hmmm... so she's transgendered and hasn't had bottom surgery yet. Got it." My issue would be with the honesty of not disclosing that. Nothing else.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You would be saying "I thought I went out with a girl but it was really a guy."
    I'm sorry if it's offensive to some people, but I would feel the same if I thought I was with a man and it turned out that it was a woman dressed like a man. I think it's much more difficult to pull off when it's a woman to man though. I would feel as if I had been tricked.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. I'd be saying "Hmmm... so she's transgendered and hasn't had bottom surgery yet. Got it." My issue would be with the honesty of not disclosing that. Nothing else.
    Right.

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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What you bring up ARE two different issues, though. The research on transgenderism and the biological causes is still fairly new. The impact of the BSTc neurons was discovered in 1996, I think. Since our understanding of the brain is still sparse... as is our understanding of the causes of sexuality, though I abscribe to the direction that the current research is going... for a variety of research based reasons, it is not conclusive. It does, however, dispel the "delusion" theory, as does other information. Doesn't mean anyone needs to believe it or accept it, similar to theories on ANYTHING.

    However, using the pronouns requested by the transgendered person is polite... similar to calling you by the name you wish to be called. Two different issues, and being polite has nothing to do with one's belief system. I often wish Christians "Merry Christmas" even though I'm Jewish. Same concept.
    I think you also need to look at context. If you are talking about the presence of an x or y chromosome, that is one context. If you are talking about how a person is born, or how they arrived at their genitalia, that is a context. If you are talking about how one acts, looks, sounds, feels, that is another context. In the vast majority of cases, the latter is the appropriate context.
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    re: Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out[W:181]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Interesting question, Redress. I had to give it a little thought. I would definitely go off appearance and action and if I met the individual in the OP, I would say "she" and "her" and not to be polite or whatever, but because the visual clues would make it automatic.
    My friend Ricki from when I was younger was very in your face about her appearance. I think my first words to her most times I saw her where a variation on "yes, the hormones are working great, they do look bigger than yesterday and they are still very nice. Now can you put your shirt back on?"
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