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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Their economy is terrible. The standard of living goes down. The crime rate is appalling. The un-employment rate is at record levels. Public health is almost non existent after years of denying there was an AIDS problem.

    That's enough to get started.
    All goes back to the point how does this make Mandella a racist? Because the country he fought for is not perfect yet?


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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'lk never excuse comnunism.
    Mandela was not a communist? Did he stand aside the South African Communist Party? Yes for political reasons, because they both wish to end apartheid. Does that make him a communist? No! Mandela was a social-democrat and a brave gentleman and a great hero and a great man.


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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Mandela was not a communist? Did he stand aside the South African Communist Party? Yes for political reasons, because they both wish to end apartheid. Does that make him a communist? No! Mandela was a social-democrat and a brave gentleman and a great hero and a great man.
    The USA fought alongside the Soviets against the Nazis during WW2. That doesn't make us Communists.

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    The USA fought alongside the Soviets against the Nazis during WW2. That doesn't make us Communists.
    If we go along the lines of APDST's knowledge then of course!


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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    If the government legally buys the land form whites I'm okay with it and they must do everything to stop the violence against farmers.
    There shouldn't be any violence against farmers.

    Meanwhile the white farmers need to realize that their vast tracts of land were given to them under a racist, oppressive, and unjust system. They will be lucky if they get market value for their land from the government.

    But in all honesty there is no reason why undoing centuries old persecution requires paying fair market value to white farmers who profited from injustice.

    If you are a co-conspirator in a massive crime you don't have the right to demand fair treatment. The farmers should be able to keep enough land so as to maintain a nice middle class lifestyle for their families. Anything more would be to continue the injustice done upon the native South Africans.

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Good. The sooner he dies the sooner this world is rid of one more murdering racist.
    Yep..soon got rid of his wife who visited him all those years in prison..

    Winnie''The Stomper'' Mandela!

    This Day in African History – Winnie Mandela Sentenced to Six Years in Prison

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Takes a lot of hate to to wish for the death of a man who helped fight against centuries of racial injustice and colonialist oppression.

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Its ironic that right wing patriotic Americans would hate a man who rose up against colonial oppression just so his people could be free to vote and be represented in gov.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    There shouldn't be any violence against farmers.

    Meanwhile the white farmers need to realize that their vast tracts of land were given to them under a racist, oppressive, and unjust system. They will be lucky if they get market value for their land from the government.

    But in all honesty there is no reason why undoing centuries old persecution requires paying fair market value to white farmers who profited from injustice.

    If you are a co-conspirator in a massive crime you don't have the right to demand fair treatment. The farmers should be able to keep enough land so as to maintain a nice middle class lifestyle for their families. Anything more would be to continue the injustice done upon the native South Africans.
    Non it isn't it is their land, if the government wants it they have to buy it.

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    re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Its ironic that right wing patriotic Americans would hate a man who rose up against colonial oppression just so his people could be free to vote and be represented in gov.
    If the USA had freed South Africa from the Apartheid regime the end result wouldn't have been that different as it is today. It takes decades to undo centuries of colonialist oppression.

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