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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    There you go apdst. His insight is far more valuable by that much compared to yours.

    Getting back to topic though. Who can substitute someone as Mandela if he does not returns from the hospital this time?
    Mandella was replaced years ago.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mandella was replaced years ago.
    Not as an official position. But as a freedom loving, country uniting, character.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Ronald Reagan never said that Mandela was a terrorist. If you read "The Reagan Diaries" he says that he can't explain why he doesn't like Mandela, he just doesn't like him.
    Reagan put the ANC on the terrorist list back in the 80's. Mandela was a member of the ANC..

    Anyways who cares that Reagan "didnt like Mandela" what does that have to do with anything, especially if he is a socialist or not?


    As for MLK, when MLK was alive, the majority of Americans didn't like him either. It was JFK and RFK who ordered the FBI to wiretap MLK's phones.
    Ok i know this. Point being?

    If you were to young or weren't born yet, after MLK death, the schools indoctrinated the students that MLK was a hero. For us who were around back then remember MLK differently. But over the decades through revisionist history and threats and intimidation's Americans were forced to accept MLK as a hero. States that refused to recognise MLK birthday as an official holiday were threaten with boycotts. Remember that ?
    I remember a nice little picture being painted of MLK. MLK was a socialist and a freedom fighter and a civil rights leader. The only leson they teach in schools tho is that he was a civil rights leader. But hey thats good tho right? Civil rights a good thing?


    But go down to a decent library and go through the archives of newspapers and see what most Americans thought of MLK during the 1960's.

    Here's a good starting point. -> http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/pub...n/62/62011.pdf
    This isnt about MLK.... This is about Mandela.

    But still waiting on how South Africa is a "failed socialist state"..


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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Mandela is still in the hospital.
    Hope he gets better wishing him the best of luck!
    Nelson Mandela Hospital Update: Former South Africa President Remains Hospitalized For Second Night


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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Reagan put the ANC on the terrorist list back in the 80's. Mandela was a member of the ANC..

    Anyways who cares that Reagan "didnt like Mandela" what does that have to do with anything, especially if he is a socialist or not?



    Ok i know this. Point being?


    I remember a nice little picture being painted of MLK. MLK was a socialist and a freedom fighter and a civil rights leader. The only leson they teach in schools tho is that he was a civil rights leader. But hey thats good tho right? Civil rights a good thing?




    This isnt about MLK.... This is about Mandela.

    But still waiting on how South Africa is a "failed socialist state"..
    Any time a country has to destroy it's nuclear weapons because there's a change of government coming, it's a dead giveaway.
    When a government can't protect it's people and crime is rampant and the upper and middle class have to arm themselves, dead giveaway.
    When a government is as corrupt as Mexico, dead giveaway.
    When the U.S. State Department has to keep issuing wide-ranging Travel Alerts for South Africa, dead giveaway.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Any time a country has to destroy it's nuclear weapons because there's a change of government coming, it's a dead giveaway.
    So because they got rid of the nuclear weapons make it a "failed socialist state"? Please.. Explain... You do realize that socialism is an economic policy?

    When a government can't protect it's people and crime is rampant and the upper and middle class have to arm themselves, dead giveaway.
    How does crime rates make a country "socialist"? Is mexico socialist then i mean they have a **** ton of crime?

    When a government is as corrupt as Mexico, dead giveaway.
    So if your government is corrupt you are socialist?

    When the U.S. State Department has to keep issuing wide-ranging Travel Alerts for South Africa, dead giveaway.
    So if your country is a turmoil your socialist?


    Or how bout this. Maybe South Africa was gong through a transition period from colonialism to trying to insecure a system where apartheid has ended, and like most countries that end a colonial/imperialist system that there will be some instability... Ever think of that logical conclusion?


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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    OK - a claim that South Africa has been destroyed financially or otherwise needs to be backed up.
    Quote me, otherwise I never said South Africa "has been destroyed financially." Your putting words in my mouth and I don't like that.

    Side track:
    Seems South Africa's economy is doing better than America's economy under Obama. Not surprising.

    I'm using my definition of "failed socialist state." Not Roper Centers definition because they don't distinguish what kind of government is in power and most people tend to disagree with Roper Center rankings. Even South Africa disputed their findings. I even dispute their ranking of America.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    I'm not going to knock Mandela for how things ended up in SA to date. He wanted better than this for SA. His end of days is likely very close. May he RIP.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Its a shame that greedy and selfish individuals took advantage of the post-Apartheid environment to enrich themselves rather than helping the people at large. But anyone who thinks this was a uniquely black African thing to happen is a racist.

    SA could have ended up a more stable, safe, and healthy nation if the right people made the right choices.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela admitted to hospital in 'serious condition' [W:47:W:117]

    Praying for your recovery Madiba but preparing for the worst. Whenever your time comes, i can only hope it will be comfortable, painless and peaceful.

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