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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    That's some impressive response time by the police huh? Did they have to have a committee meeting or something first? I think if you are going to make it as difficult as California has to defend yourself they should at least have a police department that can respond quickly enough to keep this sort of thing from happening. California has some of the highest taxes too, it's not like they don't have the budget.Where I live it is not likely he would have made it to the school. When he went out shooting at cars us armed citizens would have taken him down.

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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Can we please stop with this "the law didn't stop it therefore the law is worthless argument" there's laws against murder and theft which still occur but no one is going to say that its not worth having those laws on the books.
    No. The very point is that restricting gun ownership for millions of people will not keep this sort of this from happening, in fact it makes it more likely. According to the story this guy arrived at the campus after shooting two people in a house and shooting at several more on the way to the campus and nobody stopped him. The laws may very well be the reason those two were shot in the library.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Can't even hold this crap for one post.
    What's there to hold, you support an agenda that's so full of **** it fails in front of your face..................and this post is your reply. What's your ****ing explanation for this killing that shouldn't possibly happen with major gun control in place? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????
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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    All the politics in this thread make me sick. Who sees a shooting and things the way the victims voted is somehow important? ****ing disgusting.
    That precisely the point, the law is bull****, and that's why you don't want it brought out and discussed in the light of day. Watch, you next post will try to bring up some other subject altogether, because you have NO sensible answer to this.
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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Can we please stop with this "the law didn't stop it therefore the law is worthless argument" there's laws against murder and theft which still occur but no one is going to say that its not worth having those laws on the books.
    Since criminals can have guns on campus why can't normal tax-payers? Why do you hate people defending themselves?

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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Can't even wait till the bury the dead before you start your ugly NRA agitprop. That's what boomsticklovers do, I guess.

    Meantime the gun nut had a ballistic vest. Of course the NRA is against banning those too.
    That's what the RIP tag is for.

    This thread doesn't have an RIP tag.

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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    We haven't banned guns, that's the problem. The guy was probably from Texas.

    But there you boomsticklovers go -- politicizing another mass shooting. It's what you guys do.
    And calling for gun control isn't politicizing it? That's a little hypocritical don't you think?
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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    No. The very point is that restricting gun ownership for millions of people will not keep this sort of this from happening, in fact it makes it more likely. According to the story this guy arrived at the campus after shooting two people in a house and shooting at several more on the way to the campus and nobody stopped him. The laws may very well be the reason those two were shot in the library.
    Drugs are illegal, yet we have a drug problem...hmmmm..why would a gun ban be different?
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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That precisely the point, the law is bull****, and that's why you don't want it brought out and discussed in the light of day. Watch, you next post will try to bring up some other subject altogether, because you have NO sensible answer to this.
    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    No. The very point is that restricting gun ownership for millions of people will not keep this sort of this from happening, in fact it makes it more likely. According to the story this guy arrived at the campus after shooting two people in a house and shooting at several more on the way to the campus and nobody stopped him. The laws may very well be the reason those two were shot in the library.
    Firearm Homicide Rates, 2000 -2006
    Smoothed, age-adjusted rates per 100,000 population
    Untitled.jpg

    http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/ficap/reso.../monograph.pdf
    As you can see, firearm homicides are not just about ownership law, there's more to what affects homicide rates than gun laws. Talking about gun law as if its the only thing that affects homicides is just plain stupid, the facts don't support that view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Since criminals can have guns on campus why can't normal tax-payers? Why do you hate people defending themselves?
    Who said I don't support students carrying weapons on campus? You just made a completely wrong assumption.

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    Re: California College involved in deadly shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Can we please stop with this "the law didn't stop it therefore the law is worthless argument" there's laws against murder and theft which still occur but no one is going to say that its not worth having those laws on the books.
    Those are good laws we want to continue to punish for, stop trying to conflate good laws and bad laws. That "if criminals ignore laws why have any" counter argument is retarded every time it is uttered when discussing things that effect the law abiding. In fact, just watch this:


    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    We haven't banned guns, that's the problem.
    You can't be real, the likes of Wiseone always tell us "no one is trying to ban all guns" and that we have nothing to worry about.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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