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10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

Yeah and the Pics of the Students in the parking lot that were taken by Phone like The Chief of Police stated? Did they get confused in that space where cars were parked?

Then Huff-Pom Citing ABC NEWS. Oh and ABC NEWS following, well see there the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Suntimes Newspapers Not to mention the Chief of Police Curry Saying that's where it started. Makes one wonder who to believe when all all those sources pointed out where it began in the school Parking lot.

The fights got underway around 9:30 a.m. on May 31, starting in the school's parking lot, according to ABC Chicago. Police said the last day of school's early dismissal caught police off-guard and consumed local law enforcement for hours. Meanwhile, the school is claiming the fight took place more than a mile away from the school and that adults and former students were also participants in the brawl.

Proviso East Brawl: 10 Arrested After More Than 300 Students Pour Into Street In Massive Fight (VIDEO)

Did you now want to say the Chief of Police didn't know what the School parking lot looked like? Do you think all those New Sources would report accurately with the Chief of Police? Or should we believe you and what the Proviso Township High Schools District 209 has to say? Do you think that They Speak for all the Proviso Township Schools or for the Community and Proviso East in Maywood?
The fact that "THE CHIEF OF POLICE SAID IT" is your argument is funny. In any case, I've watched two videos. Neither confirm that the fight started in the school parking lot. One of the videos starts in a place that looks like it could a parking lot, but whether it's the school's is unclear. Both videos include clear fighting in the streets.
 
The absolute value of the decrement by nature cannot elicit a deficit, therefore the assumption of the value of its operating environment must be at fault.

Hey.. what's that, smell? He's exuding an... odor, must be, the compost pile... he built his.. house, on.

Hardly.

If you look a bit more closely you just might note that this was framed as a question, quoted here" ...hey, something wrong here I think....do they even measure deficits under zero?" Which, amazingly, you correctly ascertained. Check plus for you there, well...except for all that decrement, elicit a deficit excrement. That is probably what you were sniffing that was so particularly malodorous.

How was it up there, over the rainbow, anyhow? Anxious to get back to Kansas, I bet. Flying back are ya?
 
The fact that "THE CHIEF OF POLICE SAID IT" is your argument is funny. In any case, I've watched two videos. Neither confirm that the fight started in the school parking lot. One of the videos starts in a place that looks like it could a parking lot, but whether it's the school's is unclear. Both videos include clear fighting in the streets.

What's the difference? It's not as though MMC made it up. He posted it as it was initially reported.
 
The fact that "THE CHIEF OF POLICE SAID IT" is your argument is funny. In any case, I've watched two videos. Neither confirm that the fight started in the school parking lot. One of the videos starts in a place that looks like it could a parking lot, but whether it's the school's is unclear. Both videos include clear fighting in the streets.

Yeah and several New Stations and Phone Reports all report at the School. Including the Towns Newspaper. What ya got now? What ya want me to go out and grab up one of the Bruthas. Just So I can totally debunked your azz?

Here try this one PD....see if you can save some face.

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Right hand Lower pics. Building in background to the Left....Proviso East High School. Looks Like it is around the school.

U were saying something about Your U Tube Videos.
 
What's the difference? It's not as though MMC made it up. He posted it as it was initially reported.

You know how it is Maggie.....they got a look for that one word out. That one minor detail that don't mean a damn thing. Just like they can't figure out that bit about the Power and the Money and who is controlling things around here.

I think the Pic of the school with the Kids all around it and where all say it began. Is what it is. Despite the Disillusioned.

On one hand the Chief of Police and all the New Sources.....on the other. Proviso School Township District 209 and PD and those libs here.

You make the call? :lamo
 
Yeah and several New Stations and Phone Reports all report at the School. Including the Towns Newspaper. What ya got now? What ya want me to go out and grab up one of the Bruthas. Just So I can totally debunked your azz?

Here try this one PD....see if you can save some face.

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Right hand Lower pics. Building in background to the Left....Proviso East High School. Looks Like it is around the school.

U were saying something about Your U Tube Videos.
1. You realize that news stations, newspapers, et al. tend to get their info from the same sources right?

2. That image isn't any clearer than the videos I watched. You have no idea where that is.

3. If it happened at the school and the District is lying, great. You haven't demonstrated that they are. As far as I'm concerned if could have started at the school or not. I'm not taking sides. For that reason, I find your investment in the report that it started at the school hilarious.
 
1. You realize that news stations, newspapers, et al. tend to get their info from the same sources right?

2. That image isn't any clearer than the videos I watched. You have no idea where that is.

3. If it happened at the school and the District is lying, great. You haven't demonstrated that they are. As far as I'm concerned if could have started at the school or not. I'm not taking sides. For that reason, I find your investment in the report that it started at the school hilarious.

Other than I know the area extensively. While you don't have a clue as to what your talking about. Course you more than likely believe all that BS on how the gangs weren't involved. :lamo

Like I said. I will stick with those who Actually know the facts. Not you and these libs and that School District. :lol:
 
Hardly.

If you look a bit more closely you just might note that this was framed as a question, quoted here" ...hey, something wrong here I think....do they even measure deficits under zero?" Which, amazingly, you correctly ascertained. Check plus for you there, well...except for all that decrement, elicit a deficit excrement. That is probably what you were sniffing that was so particularly malodorous.

How was it up there, over the rainbow, anyhow? Anxious to get back to Kansas, I bet. Flying back are ya?

Your second limerick appears disjointed from your first. A shallow ploy of obfuscation from your empty trough?
 
Other than I know the area extensively. While you don't have a clue as to what your talking about. Course you more than likely believe all that BS on how the gangs weren't involved. :lamo

Like I said. I will stick with those who Actually know the facts. Not you and these libs and that School District. :lol:
Funny, I grew up near Maywood where Proviso East is located. I know the area "extensively" too. I know it well enough to know that the videos I saw were not located at the high school. In other words, you picked the wrong person to try your appeal to authority on. :lol:

In fact, the video in the link you provided me earlier (Proviso East Brawl: 10 Arrested After More Than 300 Students Pour Into Street In Massive Fight (VIDEO)) shows that the fight is in fact located where the Park District said it was located (9th Ave. and Madison). I know because one of the signs at the very start of the video is the sign for Maywood Foods and Meats which is located on that intersection as are the rest of the buildings in the video. LOL!
 
And yet you can't figure out who is in power and writing and making those laws. Creating those policies. Creating those standards of living. Controlling it all. While affecting others and their way of lives. Including in other states. Yet you state you have some education.....did you not?

Nor does it change up the fact that you deflected from Macs original premise. Wherein you thought you had some argument. Which goes back to the leadership. Which cannot be said has or was controlled by those on the Right for the last 75 years.

Again.....You cannot dispute who has the Power and the Control. Oh, you can argue incessantly over it, and you can take 2 hrs to 5 day to try and think of something. But you and all the those that lean left. Cannot changes those facts. No matter how hard you try.

Here, let me slow this down for you: You claim it is the people in power and the laws they write and make. I am asking which laws. Which policies. Without that you are just making **** up.
 
Funny, I grew up near Maywood where Proviso East is located. I know the area "extensively" too. I know it well enough to know that the videos I saw were not located at the high school. In other words, you picked the wrong person to try your appeal to authority on. :lol:

In fact, the video in the link you provided me earlier (Proviso East Brawl: 10 Arrested After More Than 300 Students Pour Into Street In Massive Fight (VIDEO)) shows that the fight is in fact located where the Park District said it was located (9th Ave. and Madison). I know because one of the signs at the very start of the video is the sign for Maywood Foods and Meats which is located on that intersection as are the rest of the buildings in the video. LOL!

That changes nothing about the Facts Where the Chief of Police and the New Sources state where the fighting began. I am sure the Chief of Police and The News Reporters know what a School parking lot looks like. Even if you do not.

Moreover I already put the Map. So your street sign still doesn't debunk the Chief of Police and all the Newsources Including the Maywood

That's Funny.....what did ya grow up Hinsdale? Do you think Hinsdale is Right around the Corner? I doubt you grew up in Bellwood. Nor anything closer to the City Right there. Did you want to say you could walk around these streets? You don't have the mentality from that part of the city. Not even close!
 
Here, let me slow this down for you: You claim it is the people in power and the laws they write and make. I am asking which laws. Which policies. Without that you are just making **** up.

Here let me make it even slower and easier for you with all that alleged and self professed education. WHO has had the Power and the Money for the last 75 years here. There is Only one answer now. There is no other out.....no one word to play on.....nor one single minor detail to change that answer. Again.....there is only one Answer.

Now you should be able to come up with that answer.
 
That changes nothing about the Facts Where the Chief of Police and the New Sources state where the fighting began. I am sure the Chief of Police and The News Reporters know what a School parking lot looks like. Even if you do not.
The School District released a statement saying that it did not start in the school parking lot. Are you suggesting that the School District itself wouldn't know what the school parking lot looks like?
 
The School District released a statement saying that it did not start in the school parking lot. Are you suggesting that the School District itself wouldn't know what the school parking lot looks like?

Right the School District that handles Proviso East and Proviso West School District 209 TOWNSHIP that is in Hinsdale. Releases a statement saying it wasn't. But the Chief Of Police who had Officers there at the start of the School day they say it did. The Reporters say it did. Even the kids and people on Facebook are saying it did according to several reporters.

There is That School District and You that say otherwise. The rest of the Chicago and the Country Is going with the facts. With what the Chief of Police and the News reporters say. Not what the School District says.
 
How can anyone complain? I believe high school was intended to prepare students for their future careers.

lol~!!!

that just happened
 
Here let me make it even slower and easier for you with all that alleged and self professed education. WHO has had the Power and the Money for the last 75 years here. There is Only one answer now. There is no other out.....no one word to play on.....nor one single minor detail to change that answer. Again.....there is only one Answer.

Now you should be able to come up with that answer.

Who has the power is irrelevant, since you can't show the "power" is what caused this. You just claim it and hope people are dumb enough to believe you. Let me ask again, what did the government of Chicago and the local school board do to cause this to happen? If you cannot answer that, claiming those who "had the power and the money" are responsible is unsupportable.
 
Right the School District that handles Proviso East and Proviso West School District 209 TOWNSHIP that is in Hinsdale. Releases a statement saying it wasn't. But the Chief Of Police who had Officers there at the start of the School day they say it did. The Reporters say it did. Even the kids and people on Facebook are saying it did according to several reporters.
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. District 209 has nothing to do with Hinsdale. The rest of your comment is irrelevant as it just supports my point that this is a "he said, she said" situation.

There is That School District and You that say otherwise.
Wrong. I don't know where it started. I, unlike you, admit that. I just said that the videos support the Park District's story.
 
Who has the power is irrelevant, since you can't show the "power" is what caused this. You just claim it and hope people are dumb enough to believe you. Let me ask again, what did the government of Chicago and the local school board do to cause this to happen? If you cannot answer that, claiming those who "had the power and the money" are responsible is unsupportable.

No, who has the Power is not irrelevant. Right.....you can't even admit to who has the power. Its not to hard to say. I know you don't like to say the Words. But this doesn't change the fact of who that is. Moreover I already explained that part out about who makes the laws, writes them. Creates the Policies. Controls the Money. Controls the daily lives of all those they govern. Then I pointed out How those Up here Affect those even In Southern Illinois and Some Surrounding States. Which you cant prove otherwise.

It's you that still cannot fathom it. Cannot comprehend about power and control. How, where, when and why.

Actually I could give 2 S**ts whether you believe me or not. It still doesn't change the facts. Nor does it change that fact how you deflected the Op in the First place. Then talking about yourself as if you had some education.

Now as to hoping people are dumb. Only a Liberal would think that way. I wouldn't even wish that on anyone, not even my worse Enemy.
 
My IQ just dropped 20 points reading your brilliant thesis.

Wouldn't that put you into negative number territory? :mrgreen:

kidding btw, you set that one up.

As for the OP, should have cordened the affected area off and let them go on, give the survivors credit for a practical darwinism class.
 
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. District 209 has nothing to do with Hinsdale. The rest of your comment is irrelevant as it just supports my point that this is a "he said, she said" situation.


Wrong. I don't know where it started. I, unlike you, admit that. I just said that the videos support the Park District's story.

Try Again.....that's why you don't know who is in District 209. With your Alleged living around the Corner. OH and I meant Hillside not Hinsdale, that's included. :roll:

Offices and schools in Proviso Township High Schools District 209 will operate under summer hours beginning on Monday, June 10.

All district offices and schools will be open from 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., Monday through Thursday. Offices and schools will be closed on Fridays.

District 209 will return to regular office hours of 7:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Monday, July 29.....snip~

http://www.pths209.org/

Imagine that.....plurality. Damn Seems there is more than One School in that Township District. Did you want to now and try and say that the Central office doesn't speak for the Township?

Not to mention the Chief of Police already Admitted officers were at the School in the Beginning like they are everyday. That they got caught by surprise. He then states the fight started in the parking lot, and spilled out to the park and the streets around the school.....

Police said the last day of school’s early dismissal caught police off-guard and consumed local law enforcement for hours.

More than 300 students poured into the street outside the Maywood high school with dozens getting into brawls that sapped the resources of at least five surrounding law enforcement agencies.

Much of the melee was caught on cell phone video later uploaded to YouTube:

300 Students Have Last Day Brawl

Looks Like the Maywood Police, News Reporters from papers and TV all say you and the School District are WRONG.
 
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Well, isn't Chicago just a model for tolerance, live, and let live utopianism? Good Grief...What a blight these cities like. Chicago, and Detroit are....Interesting that they both have been under progressive/liberal leadership for ever. Coincidence? I think not.

It might have have been worse had B. Obama not organized the community earlier.
 
So have you figured out how to show what policy caused this incident?

*Sigh* :roll: *Sigh* Although I probably will regret trying to engage you in rational discussion, let me see if I can get through...

It isn't one particular policy, or proclamation that one can point to, rather a culture of liberal/progressive agenda of looking to the wrong causes of this sort of thing based on political expediency.

An explanation as to why this type thing happens in wildly divergent geographic, socially and political areas?

None to this extent. It is one thing to say that large urban areas have problems, quite another to try and deflect the constant barrage of reports of a city that has been absolutely ruined by progressive corruption, and stupid policy.



"During the 1990s, crime rates in New York City dropped dramatically, even more than in the United States as a whole. Violent crime declined by more than 56 percent in the City, compared to about 28 percent in the nation as whole. Property crimes tumbled by about 65 percent, but fell only 26 percent nationally.

Many attribute New York's crime reduction to specific "get-tough" policies carried out by former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's administration. The most prominent of his policy changes was the aggressive policing of lower-level crimes, a policy which has been dubbed the "broken windows" approach to law enforcement. In this view, small disorders lead to larger ones and perhaps even to crime. As Mr. Guiliani told the press in 1998, "Obviously murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other."

What Reduced Crime in New York City

What I like to call "coddle policy" like Midnight basketball, and moving kids through a broken education system where teachers are risking their very lives going to work because the thugs have taken over the schools, as opposed to taking real action like increasing the police presence, and effecting real arrests of identified gang bangers, and trouble instigators is what drives this very real sense that the lawless 'run the city'....


"Corman and Mocan identify several factors that could affect crime rates. For example, the police force in New York City grew by 35 percent in the 1990s, the numbers of prison inmates rose 24 percent, and there were demographic changes, including a decline in the number of youths."

What Reduced Crime in New York City

Simply throwing money at the school system does little but create a unionized liberal voting base that perpetuates the problem.

Anything of actual substance to go with the mindless insults?

Let's take a look at your very first post in this thread shall we?

Redress entry into this thread said:
...That is just painfully stupid....Do you ever think before posting this stupid ****?

Then you continued with the insulting personal attack just a couple of postings down....

More from Redress said:
...It is not my fault you have no clue how to actually look at evidence. It is not my fault you get outraged for all the wrong reasons. It is not my fault you posted such an idiotic thread.

Now you want to complain about "mindless insults"? Hell, that is all you brought to the table. Just cut the victim crap Red, we all know your style by now, it is a worn out tactic, and does little but show everyone that you really have no interest other than snarky one liners, and mockery to add to any thread...If I wanted to lend credence to that kind of mindless, mundane tactic, then ofcourse I'd sink to your level and probably get dinged....Which ofcourse is what you want anyway...Now, step off unless you want to change course and actually do something worth while, which would be to discuss and debate. The rest of it I have no time for.
 
So of course it is liberals that cause all the problems in Chicago(but none of the good), whether there is any relation to politics, whether these things happen in other places as well, despite the fact that J-Mac cannot actually identify a cause, but by god it is the liberals fault because he knows it is, he has faith!
 
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