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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You have literally no idea what you're talking about. District 209 has nothing to do with Hinsdale. The rest of your comment is irrelevant as it just supports my point that this is a "he said, she said" situation.


    Wrong. I don't know where it started. I, unlike you, admit that. I just said that the videos support the Park District's story.
    Try Again.....that's why you don't know who is in District 209. With your Alleged living around the Corner. OH and I meant Hillside not Hinsdale, that's included.

    Offices and schools in Proviso Township High Schools District 209 will operate under summer hours beginning on Monday, June 10.

    All district offices and schools will be open from 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., Monday through Thursday. Offices and schools will be closed on Fridays.

    District 209 will return to regular office hours of 7:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Monday, July 29.....snip~

    http://www.pths209.org/

    Imagine that.....plurality. Damn Seems there is more than One School in that Township District. Did you want to now and try and say that the Central office doesn't speak for the Township?

    Not to mention the Chief of Police already Admitted officers were at the School in the Beginning like they are everyday. That they got caught by surprise. He then states the fight started in the parking lot, and spilled out to the park and the streets around the school.....

    Police said the last day of school’s early dismissal caught police off-guard and consumed local law enforcement for hours.

    More than 300 students poured into the street outside the Maywood high school with dozens getting into brawls that sapped the resources of at least five surrounding law enforcement agencies.

    Much of the melee was caught on cell phone video later uploaded to YouTube:

    300 Students Have Last Day Brawl

    Looks Like the Maywood Police, News Reporters from papers and TV all say you and the School District are WRONG.
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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, isn't Chicago just a model for tolerance, live, and let live utopianism? Good Grief...What a blight these cities like. Chicago, and Detroit are....Interesting that they both have been under progressive/liberal leadership for ever. Coincidence? I think not.
    It might have have been worse had B. Obama not organized the community earlier.

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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So have you figured out how to show what policy caused this incident?
    *Sigh* *Sigh* Although I probably will regret trying to engage you in rational discussion, let me see if I can get through...

    It isn't one particular policy, or proclamation that one can point to, rather a culture of liberal/progressive agenda of looking to the wrong causes of this sort of thing based on political expediency.

    An explanation as to why this type thing happens in wildly divergent geographic, socially and political areas?
    None to this extent. It is one thing to say that large urban areas have problems, quite another to try and deflect the constant barrage of reports of a city that has been absolutely ruined by progressive corruption, and stupid policy.



    "During the 1990s, crime rates in New York City dropped dramatically, even more than in the United States as a whole. Violent crime declined by more than 56 percent in the City, compared to about 28 percent in the nation as whole. Property crimes tumbled by about 65 percent, but fell only 26 percent nationally.

    Many attribute New York's crime reduction to specific "get-tough" policies carried out by former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's administration. The most prominent of his policy changes was the aggressive policing of lower-level crimes, a policy which has been dubbed the "broken windows" approach to law enforcement. In this view, small disorders lead to larger ones and perhaps even to crime. As Mr. Guiliani told the press in 1998, "Obviously murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other."

    What Reduced Crime in New York City

    What I like to call "coddle policy" like Midnight basketball, and moving kids through a broken education system where teachers are risking their very lives going to work because the thugs have taken over the schools, as opposed to taking real action like increasing the police presence, and effecting real arrests of identified gang bangers, and trouble instigators is what drives this very real sense that the lawless 'run the city'....


    "Corman and Mocan identify several factors that could affect crime rates. For example, the police force in New York City grew by 35 percent in the 1990s, the numbers of prison inmates rose 24 percent, and there were demographic changes, including a decline in the number of youths."

    What Reduced Crime in New York City

    Simply throwing money at the school system does little but create a unionized liberal voting base that perpetuates the problem.

    Anything of actual substance to go with the mindless insults?
    Let's take a look at your very first post in this thread shall we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress entry into this thread
    ...That is just painfully stupid....Do you ever think before posting this stupid ****?
    Then you continued with the insulting personal attack just a couple of postings down....

    Quote Originally Posted by More from Redress
    ...It is not my fault you have no clue how to actually look at evidence. It is not my fault you get outraged for all the wrong reasons. It is not my fault you posted such an idiotic thread.
    Now you want to complain about "mindless insults"? Hell, that is all you brought to the table. Just cut the victim crap Red, we all know your style by now, it is a worn out tactic, and does little but show everyone that you really have no interest other than snarky one liners, and mockery to add to any thread...If I wanted to lend credence to that kind of mindless, mundane tactic, then ofcourse I'd sink to your level and probably get dinged....Which ofcourse is what you want anyway...Now, step off unless you want to change course and actually do something worth while, which would be to discuss and debate. The rest of it I have no time for.
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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    So of course it is liberals that cause all the problems in Chicago(but none of the good), whether there is any relation to politics, whether these things happen in other places as well, despite the fact that J-Mac cannot actually identify a cause, but by god it is the liberals fault because he knows it is, he has faith!
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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Since when does a bunch of kids fighting = parents not doing their jobs?
    It was in response to school officials claiming the parents aren't doing their job. For the most part...school brawls and teenagers fighting is very normal.
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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It was in response to school officials claiming the parents aren't doing their job. For the most part...school brawls and teenagers fighting is very normal.
    not like that. And yes, lack of parental involvement tends to be a particular issue within african american communities

    And while the above isn't exactly PC, we can continue to act as if all cultures and groups perform equally and suffer from the same issues, or we can be realistic and note that they actually do not. Why that is is another matter entirely

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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So of course it is liberals that cause all the problems in Chicago(but none of the good), whether there is any relation to politics, whether these things happen in other places as well, despite the fact that J-Mac cannot actually identify a cause, but by god it is the liberals fault because he knows it is, he has faith!
    Well, whadda ya expect when you have leadership such as this...

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    Also note how, 'the culture of...' is being intertwined into conversations.
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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    not like that. And yes, lack of parental involvement tends to be a particular issue within african american communities

    And while the above isn't exactly PC, we can continue to act as if all cultures and groups perform equally and suffer from the same issues, or we can be realistic and note that they actually do not. Why that is is another matter entirely
    Well, there are some cultural differences in some cases regarding emphasis on education at some times. To claim that's the root of the problem makes little sense since it's not even a measured (or measurable) statistic.

    I think it's probably fairer to say that families that are poor tend to have worse educational outcomes than families that are rich, and maybe we should be focusing on how to bring prosperity to those families -- rather than blaming them and rather than pursuing policies that overwhelmingly benefit the wealthy.

    But we all know the OP has a rather ugly agenda which isn't about urging the black community to emphasize education more.

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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Well, whadda ya expect when you have leadership such as this...

    “My gut tells me..." - Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)




    Also note how, 'the culture of...' is being intertwined into conversations.
    Exactly. It's conservative code. Are there ANY statistics that indicate that what's really the problem in inner city schools is a culture that doesn't emphasize education? I doubt it. I think the real issue is far simpler and far more damning for conservative ideology: poor people have a hard time educating their children without resources and without the time to dedicate to their education.

    But conservatives don't want to talk about real things, like poverty.

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    Re: 10 Arrested in Student Brawl at Proviso East High School

    God you people crack me up!.....y'all come a runnin' to the defense of liberal progressive leaders, and the school system of Chicago, more liberal progressives, trying as hard as you can to make excuses, and bring in examples of other cities that don't have near the same problems that happen in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, L.A.....etc....And further, your only response, rather than discuss with introspection of ideology, is to attack anyone even bringing up the question..

    What a joke it really is.

    (Now the usual suspects can personally attack some more without any reprisal)
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