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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Yes. Even Max Baucus admitted that he had never read the bill.
    Wow, that's two. And even those writing it had no idea what the words were on the age or shared with anyone.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    With the Obama cheering media to engaging in political assassination of character against conserviative Republicans and the mess we have in choosing a canidate for a Party in the Presidential Primaries one cannot really expect better.
    I know. Poor picked on republicans. I mean calling them soviet, communist, socialist, fascist, Kenyan, Muslim terrorists without a birth certificate wanting to destroy American was hard for republicans to deal with, being the pure, soft hearted, sensitive souls they are.


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

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    No, jut the names of those who "didn't actually read the NIE. They took the briefings as the gospel", as per your claim.



    Read what Kerry said? And you believe John Kerry is well acquainted with the facts? The record speaks for itself. Thats where the facts are, unless you can prove otherwise.



    He voted yes, along with the majority. He turned squirmy, and against his own country, later.
    The NIE was linked years ago. And as Kerry did exactly was he said would, it's hard to have credibility when you suggest we shouldn't trust him on this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    No, jut the names of those who "didn't actually read the NIE. They took the briefings as the gospel", as per your claim.



    Read what Kerry said? And you believe John Kerry is well acquainted with the facts? The record speaks for itself. Thats where the facts are, unless you can prove otherwise.



    He voted yes, along with the majority. He turned squirmy, and against his own country, later.
    As I assume either you didn't pay attention during the entire Iraq effort, or your memory is really poor, I thought I'd give you a link or two since I had a moment:

    Only a handful of senators outside the Intelligence Committee say they read the full 92-page National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s ability to attack the U.S. before voting to go to war, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

    Read more: Few senators read Iraq NIE report - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new biography of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has once again raised the issue of whether members of Congress read a key intelligence report before the 2002 vote to authorize war in Iraq.

    Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, according to "Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton."

    Records: Senators who OK'd war didn't read*key report - CNN.com

    Most people who do that just read the summary and conclusions, don't read the whole document itself. And yeah, that's what the vice president means when he says, "You saw what we saw." Of course that's disingenuous because they didn't see the president's daily brief, and the president's daily brief was saying some things that were not in the National Intelligence Estimate.

    Analysis - The October '02 National Intelligence Estimate | The Dark Side | FRONTLINE | PBS

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post

    The NIE was linked years ago. And as Kerry did exactly was he said would, it's hard to have credibility when you suggest we shouldn't trust him on this.
    Remember this??


    Sure he had. Candidates never ever lie.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I assume either you didn't pay attention during the entire Iraq effort, or your memory is really poor, I thought I'd give you a link or two since I had a moment:

    Only a handful of senators outside the Intelligence Committee say they read the full 92-page National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s ability to attack the U.S. before voting to go to war, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

    Read more: Few senators read Iraq NIE report - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new biography of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has once again raised the issue of whether members of Congress read a key intelligence report before the 2002 vote to authorize war in Iraq.

    Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, according to "Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton."

    Records: Senators who OK'd war didn't read*key report - CNN.com

    Most people who do that just read the summary and conclusions, don't read the whole document itself. And yeah, that's what the vice president means when he says, "You saw what we saw." Of course that's disingenuous because they didn't see the president's daily brief, and the president's daily brief was saying some things that were not in the National Intelligence Estimate.

    Analysis - The October '02 National Intelligence Estimate | The Dark Side | FRONTLINE | PBS
    Right. And Hillary Rodham Clinton know what happened in Benghazi either. She, like Obama, is way out of her league.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Remember this??
    Yep. But we know what he said, and what he did. We know they match. Don't you understand how his works?

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right. And Hillary Rodham Clinton know what happened in Benghazi either. She, like Obama, is way out of her league.
    There's more than that there. You know it as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are starting to sound like a member of the 42% previously cited....it did not fail, he got it passed. It is being implemented as we speak. No doubt the PR war against it that we are witnessing is amazing, but it is a done deal.

    There is no precedent for the continued widespread opposition to such a "done deal". We're going to have at least one, and maybe two more elections fought over this.
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I believe this article will highlight that Obama Care will become even more unpopular:

    Coverage may be unaffordable for low-wage workers under ObamaCare | Fox News

    The main point is that with the law companies can (1) offer a healthcare plan that is 9.5% or less of an employes income (example $21,000 would be $1,995) and would be still too expensive due to cost of living also the deductible can be $3000.00 before the insurance would cover costs. (2) Being offered a health care plan by their employer the are not eligible to apply for individual coverage in systems allowed by the government. (3) Is not eligible for Medicade coverage due to having an income that is higher $15,900.
    It's going to become more unpopular as more of the provisions are rolled out.
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