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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Tell yourself what you must, but Romney would have changed little. All that
    would have changed would be republican hyperbole.
    Delusional ramblings and hypothetical constructs are not condusive to a objective debate over the issues.

    You, who support a corrupt ideology we are all now witnessing the failure of can't possibly be taken seriously anymore.

    Youv'e lost your credibillity.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Um, do you even know what you are talking about? We are talking about Congress, the Representatives and Senators did not read this bill.
    Correct.. No one in Congress read the full bill. Seldom do they read any bill.

    In the US, the responsibility to read bills falls to the sponsors of the pols who will vote for the bill, and in this case, that's the insurance cos. themselves. Once a sponsor's legal dept. determines that a bill meets it's objectives, the sponsor orders it's pols to vote for the bill. And that's what happened to obamacare. If the insurance co. legal depts. were unhappy with the bill, they would've ordered their reps in Congress to vote it down.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Delusional ramblings and hypothetical constructs are not condusive to a objective debate over the issues.
    Nope, Boo is 100% correct. romney would've done nothing different. At best, romney would've only ordered tweaks to obamacare to make it more favorable to the insurance oligopoly.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Correct.. No one in Congress read the full bill. Seldom do they read any bill.

    In the US, the responsibility to read bills falls to the sponsors of the pols who will vote for the bill, and in this case, that's the insurance cos. themselves. Once a sponsor's legal dept. determines that a bill meets it's objectives, the sponsor orders it's pols to vote for the bill. And that's what happened to obamacare. If the insurance co. legal depts. were unhappy with the bill, they would've ordered their reps in Congress to vote it down.
    That is incorrect, the responsibility falls on those passing the bill. Take a civics class please. That being said, you clearly don't understand how govnerment is intended to work and only know the crazy mess we have today.

    We are talking about Congress though, not insurance companies, we didn't elect insurance companies. The point is, they stuffed tons of stuff in this bill that is going to hurt, not help, Americans, and Congress blindly accepted it.
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    That is incorrect, the responsibility falls on those passing the bill. Take a civics class please. That being said, you clearly don't understand how govnerment is intended to work and only know the crazy mess we have today.
    It may have been intended to work that way, but that's not how it currently works. They way it currently works, political sponsors, not Congress, read all major bills

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    We are talking about Congress though, not insurance companies, we didn't elect insurance companies. The point is, they stuffed tons of stuff in this bill that is going to hurt, not help, Americans, and Congress blindly accepted it.
    True, but Congress largely works for insurance cos., not Americans, so they did what they always do--vote in their sponsors' favor.

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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It may have been intended to work that way, but that's not how it currently works. They way it currently works, political sponsors, not Congress, read all major bills



    True, but Congress largely works for insurance cos., not Americans, so they did what they always do--vote in their sponsors' favor.
    Wow, you are ignorant. Congress works for the American People. That is what they are there for. We elected them, not insurance companies. Wake up!
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It would be if it wasn't the truth. Misinformation is very, very hard to get around. Nothing is harder than to educate someone on something he THINKS he knows.
    That's right. Conservative blogs and Foxnews carry more influence than the President of the United States!
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I find that hard to believe. I think you just buy the rhetoric too much.
    The nearly three thousand pages were published less than 72 hours before final passage. Much of the language had never been vetted in committee mark-up sessions. For over three years unpleasant, previously overlooked provisions have popped up on nearly a weekly basis. You are the one who is blindly buying rhetoric and spin.
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, some are easily swayed by the rhetoric, the spin, and the silliness. Do you believe she is representative and do you always believe her?
    Do we think Nancy Pelosi is representative???????????????????
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    Re: Health care law's unpopularity reaches new highs

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Tell yourself what you must, but Romney would have changed little. All that would have changed would be republican hyperbole.
    Romney had unequivocally committed himself to repeal.
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